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Thumbs up Arnold is making those lazy asses on walfare to go search for work

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this is good considering most people i know that are on walfare have healthy arms and legs that is capable of working but just too lazy to go and find work.

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But State Assemblywoman Noreen Evans, the budget committee chairwoman, said she wants lawmakers to consider raising revenue rather than cutting so deeply into state programs.
"I will look under every rock and every leaf so that we can make sure women and children are fed and their medical needs are taken care of," Evans said.
Basically: I will raise already too high taxes and drive out investment! That way, we will never get out of this hole! I ignore economic reality because it is painful, and seek instead to find the easy money!

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Basically: I will raise already too high taxes and drive out investment! That way, we will never get out of this hole! I ignore economic reality because it is painful, and seek instead to find the easy money!

Californians crack me up man...
She is a dumb tard Democrat, just like most other democrat that run this 3rd most powerful micro economy in the world in to bankrupcy. want somthing for nothing. makes me wonder if they democrat can even do some basic math. i mean what are they thinking... 1-1=2. i hate people like her with a passion. because they think, well lets just tax the hell out of the rich and those who works their ass off to support the other who dont work at all. talk about fairness. if i work my ass off, i better keep my earning.

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More cuts to education. Wonderful.

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I'm ready to move out of state based on the ridiculous amount of education cuts in the past few years alone.
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Glad to see the welfare bums have to get off their asses now. The need to cut WIC too, lazy welfare moms getting groceries off of our dollar just so they can stay home and get fat and pop out more babies?! But I'm with Vandurin, this state has some of the worst public education schools. Why is it always the most important stuff that gets the first cuts?

Look at all the ghey advertising we as a state do on the most stupidest stuff? Click it or ticket? Come on! If you can't read the little read sign that comes on on your dash or hear the annoying ding your car makes when you drive w/o it on then maybe you deserve to fly out a window. Why in this day and age do we still have PSA commercials about retarded crap? Do you really need a radio add telling you about airplane turbulence? Or another one telling you to stay above the influence and not get high? Who the hell listens to this crap?

If the government stopped putting money into the gheyest things like this I'm sure we would save millions. I mean in these hard times do we really need graffiti clean up on the freeway? I hate it too but I'd rather a kid have a book and deal with some ugly crap on the freeway. But nope, I'm sure some politician has some lobbyist agenda paying him to say we need BS PSA's and chemicals to clean our walls and the list goes on. Give me an effin break

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We need to legalize marijuana, so much revenue would come from that.

I agree, too many people are abusing the welfare system. Its not fair for tax payers to support laziness. Having kids should be a decision based on your means to take care of them, people shouldnt rely on the government for paying the bills.

There are going to be mad protests and riots if this goes through. What will these people do when their aid is cut? Could get scary.

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We need to legalize marijuana, so much revenue would come from that.

I agree, too many people are abusing the welfare system. Its not fair for tax payers to support laziness. Having kids should be a decision based on your means to take care of them, people shouldnt rely on the government for paying the bills.

There are going to be mad protests and riots if this goes through. What will these people do when their aid is cut? Could get scary.

Exactly! But then some religious nut jobs always step in and tell us its their God given right on when to have kids and how many. And who ends up paying the bill? We do

I remember listening to Adam Carrola when he was till on the air arguing with some Welfare mom telling her to stop having kids she can't afford. She argued back that he couldn't tell her what to do when he replied " Yes I can bitch! I pay taxes" Exactly effen right. If you as a parent can not be responsible enough to bring forth a child into a healthy environment then yes us tax payers should be able to step in and say; " Hey, you have one kid you can't afford and I'll be damn if you have another"

We as a culture have been breading a lazy fat American and the sh1t needs to stop. There was a time when being a man and not being able to provide brought shame to yourself and your family. So you strived for your best. Instead we now reassure people that if you can't be father its ok, just let big government front the bill. I hope they do more cuts to welfare recipients. This retarded cycle needs to stop.


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Not liking... "Also among the cuts are stops to college fee assistance for thousands of students"

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More cuts to education. Wonderful.

*sigh*

I'm ready to move out of state based on the ridiculous amount of education cuts in the past few years alone.
Notice how they NEVER cut any of the redundant beurocratic UNION jobs !!! It's always Education and Police that get the first cuts.

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Not liking... "Also among the cuts are stops to college fee assistance for thousands of students"
Maybe they should apply those to the illegal aliens, but that'll never happen


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We as a culture have been breading a lazy fat American and the sh1t needs to stop. There was a time when being a man and not being able to provide brought shame to yourself and your family. So you strived for your best. Instead we now reassure people that if you can't be father its ok, just let big government front the bill. I hope they do more cuts to welfare recipients. This retarded cycle needs to stop.


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So true! Back in the day borrowing money was shameful; you saved money for what you needed, and paid in full for your sh*t. Now we are ENCOURAGED to borrow so we can get trapped in the prison of debt, once you are in its so hard to get out. People living beyond their means is what screwed up our financial system, but it is encouraged to make the bankers rich!

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Man, why do Americans keep doing this to themselves... Why is it always a "blue" vs "red" issue? You're playing into their game. F*ck blue/red... partisan politics needs to stop but you guys keep perpetrating the fact that one of the sides cares about you more than the other.

The fact is... both sides do the same thing in the end. Dems want to cash and carry, repubs want to put everything on credit. Either way, you get screwed over in the end.

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Man, why do you Americans keep doing this to themselves... Why is it always a "blue" vs "red" issue? You're playing into their game. F*ck blue/red... partisan politics needs to stop but you guys keep perpetrating the fact that one of the sides cares about you more than the other.

The fact is... both sides do the same thing in the end. Dems want to cash and carry, repubs want to put everything on credit. Either way, you get screwed over in the end.
Totally agree! I've been saying for years that it doesn't matter which political party is in power. It's the same $h!t over and over.

I think this last great hope of the Obama administration has proven to many Americans this simple fact. It's nothing more then a well orchestrated farce. Kinda like WWF but with more money involved.


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but the fact of the matter is " this is a blue VS red issue". lets look at the core issues here. democrates wants to raise taxes for everyone, they want to spend every dollar in their pocket including the money thats not in your pocket. they want to "protect" the people by writting laws that is against business, they want to "protect" the enviroment that end up driving most business away. while the republican is pro business, pro tax decrease, and less spending. in the current state, which one is more apporporate? people always bitching at Arnold saying he keeps on cutting budget and raise taxes, but who created this mess in the first place... did we all forget a guy name Gray Daves? He run the state to the rolling snowball of debt, he setup the laws to drive business away. guess what he is a democrat

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If republicans were in charge, people would find something about them to bitch about to, so I'm with pbeaul on this one, it's no longer a D vs. R thing.

The only people that say "It's our god given right to have children" are the people who have no REAL legit argument, so they place everything on their sky god. god given right? Grow up.

Disco - I'm assuming you're older than me, as I'm 24 I was brought up on the "buy now, pay later" thing. Except when I did borrow money I never struggled to pay it back. I say you must be older, because from what I can remember, in my life it's never been shameful to borrow money, and go into debt, it was just "normal living" and that's where I think a lot of people specifically in my generation are screwing up. I borrow, but I only borrow what I can afford to pay back. I don't get behind on payments, where as some people say "Oh it's only a $10 fee.." Then that snowballs into 2 or 3 months behind, and some, like my friend, just stop paying his bills, thinking "They'll just go away".... A large part of our problem in the general publics fault, for spending too much of what they don't have. (Not saying that govt. didn't play a large roll also) It's not the credit card companies fault that they trusted you (generalization, not anyone in particular) with a large amount of credit, you used it, then weren't able to pay it back, so they jacked up your interest rate.. and you cry. Too f*cking bad.

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And yes, WIC needs to end. I know a girl who was preg, was struggling with bill, so she quit her job so she could get on Badger Care and WIC, and whatever other assistance this ghey ass state offers to the lazy. Her = Pile of ****.

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It is their right to have children. However, they have no right to your money.

The problem I am seeing with the Blue vs. Red is that both are wrong.
The reds are morality pushing jerks. The blues are tax happy jerks.

It seems that all of you need to come to the new way of thinking: Libertarianism. It is a political philosophy centered around small government and low taxes. Does that sound appealing to you? It sure does to me.

Once you have seen the benefits of less gov't and taxes (just ask people that have moved from California to tax haven states), get on the wagon and start being involved. Bitching from the sidelines won't get you anywhere.



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I'm with moose. They can have all the kids they want. It is their right and no government should tell an individual they can't have children. That's a very slippery slope indeed. But they don't deserve our money to raise them.

I would like to do one better than Libertarianism and simple do away with ALL political parties period. You run for office based on your view points. Everyone is an Independent. If we get rid of this dog and pony show we've been trapped under for the past 100 years we may actually see a change. Until then, don't put your hopes into ANY political party or candidate. No single person will solve anything. You should have seen that with Obama's backsliding right back to Bush's same point of view.

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but the fact of the matter is " this is a blue VS red issue". lets look at the core issues here. democrates wants to raise taxes for everyone, they want to spend every dollar in their pocket including the money thats not in your pocket. they want to "protect" the people by writting laws that is against business, they want to "protect" the enviroment that end up driving most business away. while the republican is pro business, pro tax decrease, and less spending. in the current state, which one is more apporporate? people always bitching at Arnold saying he keeps on cutting budget and raise taxes, but who created this mess in the first place... did we all forget a guy name Gray Daves? He run the state to the rolling snowball of debt, he setup the laws to drive business away. guess what he is a democrat
It's only a red/blue issue because you make it out to be one... Fiscal irresponsibility isn't a red/blue issue, both sides should have a responsibility to design a budget that is fiscally responsible. And I don't see anything wrong with anti-business laws as long as they are in the best interest of the people. The governments need to start looking after the people they represent, not those with the biggest kickbacks to hand out.

Were you not the guy complaining about global warming a few months ago? Now you're upset with California's attempt to protect the environment... you can't have it both ways.

Either way, California is in quite a unique position seeing as it has a HUGE economy and it can afford to make make businesses pay to play. I think the progressive nature of California is very good for the rest of the country and the only reason they're able to pull most of it off is because of their huge economy.

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Disco - I'm assuming you're older than me, as I'm 24 I was brought up on the "buy now, pay later" thing. Except when I did borrow money I never struggled to pay it back. I say you must be older, because from what I can remember, in my life it's never been shameful to borrow money, and go into debt, it was just "normal living" and that's where I think a lot of people specifically in my generation are screwing up. I borrow, but I only borrow what I can afford to pay back. I don't get behind on payments, where as some people say "Oh it's only a $10 fee.." Then that snowballs into 2 or 3 months behind, and some, like my friend, just stop paying his bills, thinking "They'll just go away".... A large part of our problem in the general publics fault, for spending too much of what they don't have. (Not saying that govt. didn't play a large roll also) It's not the credit card companies fault that they trusted you (generalization, not anyone in particular) with a large amount of credit, you used it, then weren't able to pay it back, so they jacked up your interest rate.. and you cry. Too f*cking bad.
I wouldn't say borrowing money was shameful, but it was extremely frowned upon for pretty much everything except the basics that people generally don't have enough money for... like house/car. I think the current system is beyond ridicules and the whole "I need to build up my credit" crap is just the bankers getting you tangled in their web. The major thing that credit does is that it helps you live beyond your means and get sh*t NOW. Back in the old days, if you couldn't afford it, you didn't buy it. Now days everyone can afford it because they have 20 different ways to put in on someones credit and pay for it in tiny bite size chunks... which causes that original item to cost 3x more.

People need to learn that they don't need everything NOW, that it's okay to wait a few months to save up the money and if after that time you haven't found something new/talked yourself out of getting it... than go buy it cash in hand.

When everything is perfect, credit is great... but as soon as you hit a bump in the road that's when your house of credit cards comes falling down on you. It's much easier to live life when you don't owe anyone anything... it CAN be done but requires more sacrifice than most are willing to do.
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I'm with moose. They can have all the kids they want. It is their right and no government should tell an individual they can't have children. That's a very slippery slope indeed. But they don't deserve our money to raise them.

I would like to do one better than Libertarianism and simple do away with ALL political parties period. You run for office based on your view points. Everyone is an Independent. If we get rid of this dog and pony show we've been trapped under for the past 100 years we may actually see a change. Until then, don't put your hopes into ANY political party or candidate. No single person will solve anything. You should have seen that with Obama's backsliding right back to Bush's same point of view.

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the problem is that, those people have kids that they cannot support. its impossible to say that the society can just stand by and watch. because if thatís the case, we are no different than animal. where they eat or kill the young if the situation is unfit to raise offspring. as a result, simply saying its your right to have a child, yet they cannot use everyone's money is irresponsible. that kind of statement solves nothing, it achieves nothing. i dont know whats your or moose's intention, but what it sounds to me is that when people makes this type of statement, they are saying it to cover their own ass. they are saying what people want to hear, but not what people need to hear. when people makes statement such as this, it makes them sound like an noble idealistic, that respects individualism. however, such ideology failed in the world where the end justify the mean.

heres another off topic statement that runs along the same idea: people who oppose gay marriages because they believe it violates the fundamentals of the marriage constitution. but in reality, gay marriages is not the volition; striate man and woman that had divorce 3-4 time in their life time is. i mean how can you at one hand want to uphold the marriage constitution, yet at another hand the number of divorce is equal to the number of marriage, in a society where divorce is the norm.

back on topic. think about it, for the most of us, our kids will go to public schools. where the funding comes from you and i. however, if some irresponsible individuals decided to procreate, the money you and i contribute to our kids gets bigger in proportion in comparison to them, yet the actual benefit generated from our contribution gets smaller. is that fair, i think not. the idea of more dependents gets less taxes is retarded. and the idea of having so much dependent by choice beyond your means gets aid is even more ridicules.

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The fact is... both sides do the same thing in the end. Dems want to cash and carry, repubs want to put everything on credit. Either way, you get screwed over in the end.
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It's only a red/blue issue because you make it out to be one... Fiscal irresponsibility isn't a red/blue issue, both sides should have a responsibility to design a budget that is fiscally responsible. And I don't see anything wrong with anti-business laws as long as they are in the best interest of the people. The governments need to start looking after the people they represent, not those with the biggest kickbacks to hand out.

Were you not the guy complaining about global warming a few months ago? Now you're upset with California's attempt to protect the environment... you can't have it both ways.

Either way, California is in quite a unique position seeing as it has a HUGE economy and it can afford to make make businesses pay to play. I think the progressive nature of California is very good for the rest of the country and the only reason they're able to pull most of it off is because of their huge economy.
there is no way that any anti business laws is good for the people. one of the major the reason why people want to pay the extra high price to live in CA is because of the diverse job avaliablity here. however, with the goverment keeps thinking those business are cash cows that have unlimited ammount of funding for them to squize is just plan wrong. if a business cannot turn a profit because of the local laws, it will move to the next best alternative location. currently mid east and arazona is a grate example. the reason why the goverment is squizing those business is because of the uncontrollable spending fule by democrateic ideals. with their midset of taxs the rich (i.e. business owners big and small) and give it to the poors can be seem by many of the recent business moves in the pass 10 years.

helping against global warming is one thing, where it cannot be done by CA along. coming out with over zealous enviromental regulation to prohibit business is another. for example. one of the worst car poluters are school busses, old cars that should of been junk. yet there are no regulations against vechicals such as this. every time i pull behind a school bus or an old VW bug, i can smell the gas fumes porring out of their exahust, the unburn carbin PPM level must be through the rolf. where if i was to light a match , it would of created a micro explotion. yet CA still insist on putting their iron fist down at all the major auto manufatures stating the rediculious emmition policy. also in the line of manufacturing, there are certent enviromental/ health unfrendly chemicals or processes that must be done with no clear replacement. however, if those processes or chemicals was handle properly, little to no harm would occure. yet CA had ban those chemicals and processes for comercal useage which drives the related business away.

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well said...thats why i stay neutral... I have no love what so ever for the far left or the far right.... both ends of the rectum are radical idiots
personally thats why i like arnold, he pledges to the right, yet his agendas convers both left and right. if he were to compeat for senitor like rumor says, i would vote for him.

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I would like to do one better than Libertarianism and simple do away with ALL political parties period. You run for office based on your view points. Everyone is an Independent. If we get rid of this dog and pony show we've been trapped under for the past 100 years we may actually see a change. Until then, don't put your hopes into ANY political party or candidate. No single person will solve anything. You should have seen that with Obama's backsliding right back to Bush's same point of view.

WHAT HAPPENED TO REPEALING THE PATRIOT ACT OBAMA?!!!
BTW too bad the rules of the game require you to pledge a party. if you want to win and makes a difference. the fact of the matter is, you must make a deal with the devil by chooseing a party before election. otherwise majority of the people are not going to vote for a independent, nore do they have enough money to thorw such campain.

i personally dont agreed with many obama's policy, however one of his notable contribution is the lift on stem cell research. i just wish the next admenstration rather it be 4 years from now or 8 years from now will leave the issue along. since this type of large scale scientific research cannot be turn on and off like a light switch. it takes continuest works that may requrie decades of time in order to produce signiificent results.

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Rectum... Ha, how appropriate.

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heres another off topic statement that runs along the same idea: people who oppose gay marriages because they believe it violates the fundamentals of the marriage constitution. but in reality, gay marriages is not the volition; striate man and woman that had divorce 3-4 time in their life time is. i mean how can you at one hand want to uphold the marriage constitution, yet at another hand the number of divorce is equal to the number of marriage, in a society where divorce is the norm.
Fantastic point... People really need to butt out of other peoples lives.

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there is no way that any anti business laws is good for the people.
I'm not familiar with what California is passing these days but to say that everything "anti-business" is bad for the people is completely wrong. We know what happens when businesses get too big and powerful.

So I guess that you would be against any kinds of basic work health/safety standards and minimum wage laws correct? Because those are obviously "anti-business". I don't disagree with you in that Cali is probably sucking them dry... but that's because they're greedy and can't figure out how to get a reasonable budget.
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Rectum... Ha, how appropriate.



Fantastic point... People really need to butt out of other peoples lives.



I'm not familiar with what California is passing these days but to say that everything "anti-business" is bad for the people is completely wrong. We know what happens when businesses get too big and powerful.

So I guess that you would be against any kinds of basic work health/safety standards and minimum wage laws correct? Because those are obviously "anti-business". I don't disagree with you in that Cali is probably sucking them dry... but that's because they're greedy and can't figure out how to get a reasonable budget.
haha, almost.. i am all for work health/ safety. it is within the business best intreest too. since otherwise the insurace clam would overwhelm the business operational cost if their worker is getting hurt all the time. this is also different from explotation, which i dont support of. such as making worker work over time, but under pay. however, in the case of the US auto union where a tech's duty to tighten a nut on a car gets paid 70k+ a year thats just ridiculess.

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^^ Yes! Auto unions need to pull their heads out of their asses, and realize you do not get paid $30+/hr to place a door on a car, or tighten some lug nuts.... (and yes, I'm part if a union)

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