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Thumbs up Ron Paul has a real chance of winning GOP Nomination

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Along with Romney collapsing, so has Cain who dropped out of the race. Cain had a 9.5% chance of winning on October 15th, but now has only a 0.1% chance of winning. Meanwhile, Rick Perry was exposed as being the phony candidate from Texas. Perry's support has collapsed from 39.4% on September 3rd to only 2.1% today.

With Romney, Cain, and Perry collapsing, where has all of their support gone? Newt Gingrich's chances of winning have increased from a low of 0.8% on September 27th to 33.3% today. Ron Paul's chances of winning have increased from a low of 2.2% on November 8th to 7.4% today. Jon Huntsman's chances of winning have increased from a low of 2.1% on November 7th to 7% today.

Iowa is the first GOP caucus and widely recognized as the first step in becoming the Republican nominee. Intrade doesn't allow you to buy shares for the Iowa caucus, so we can only look at polling. A new PPP poll for the Iowa caucus just released on December 5th shows Gingrich in the lead with 27%, Paul in second with 18%, Romney in third with 16%, and Bachmann in fourth with 13%.

Rather than giving Ron Paul a serious chance of winning Iowa, the media is currently portraying Paul as a potential "spoiler". The Washington Examiner published an article this week with the headline, "Ron Paul could complicate GOP's two-horse race". Despite Paul currently polling second place in the most important primary state, many mainstream media news reports about the election have been mentioning Ron Paul's name before immediately saying, "who has no chance of winning the nomination."

History has shown that just like in a horse race, Presidential candidates who take a big lead early on almost never win the nomination. Those who think Romney will win the nomination also thought that Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani were going to be the two nominees four years ago. If history is right and Romney doesn't win the nomination, the winner will likely be either Gingrich or Paul.

NIA considers Gingrich to be unelectable and predicts that his support will soon evaporate as soon as voters learn the truth about him. Gingrich might as well be a Democrat. He would have zero chance of winning an election against Obama because voters would choose to go with the real thing. In the last Presidential election, voters only had a choice between two candidates who supported the government's bailout of Wall Street. You would think that Americans today would only be supporting candidates who were strongly against the government's bailout of Wall Street. Gingrich stated in 2008 that he "reluctantly and sadly" was supporting the $700 billion bailout of Wall Street. If Gingrich was the nominee, it will be a disaster for America because it will show that nobody in the U.S. has learned a thing.

Gingrich claims to have never favored cap-and-trade, but in 2007 he said that he would "strongly support" cap-and-trade with “a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions.” He went on to say in 2009 that he might still support cap-and-trade for “the 2,000 most polluting places,” if packaged with green energy incentives. Even more disturbing than Gingrich's support of cap-and-trade, Gingrich was paid $30,000 per month by Freddie Mac as a consultant during the subprime mortgage crisis up until it effectively became a government controlled entity. Gingrich received a total of $1.8 million from Freddie Mac as part of two contracts, one that lasted from mid-1999 to 2002 and another that lasted from 2006 until September of 2008.

NIA believes that Gingrich is largely responsible for skyrocketing health care inflation in the U.S. today. In 2003, Gingrich founded The Center for Health Transformation, which was paid dues of $200,000 per year from health insurance providers and other health care firms. Those dues would provide health care companies with “access to Newt Gingrich” and “direct Newt interaction”, which NIA looks at as bribes that were paid to Gingrich by these health care giants to pass regulations that pushed health care costs through the roof. Gingrich's organization advocated that “anyone who earns more than $50,000 a year must purchase health insurance or post a bond." NIA believes it is unconstitutional for the government to force Americans to buy anything. This type of distortion of the free market by Gingrich is what has helped fuel massive health care inflation for the past decade.

On September 27th when Gingrich's support was only 0.8%, Paul was beating him with support of 2.6%. Gingrich is the latest flavor of the month. We also saw huge spikes in support for Perry and Cain before their support collapsed back to below 2% as voters figured out the truth about them. Paul is the only candidate who has never been below 2% and has enjoyed a very large and solid support base that has been growing consistently. Paul is currently second in Iowa and third nationwide and when voters realize he is the only candidate who will implement the changes that need to be made to save America from hyperinflation, Paul will be the only candidate left standing to take on Obama.

The Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism just released a study yesterday of 20 million tweets and it shows that Ron Paul is overwhelmingly viewed more positively on Twitter than all of the other Republican candidates:



After studying 20 million tweets, 55% of tweets about Ron Paul were positive while only 15% were negative. For every other Republican candidate, negative tweets outweighed positive tweets by two-to-one. The mainstream media loves Twitter and when Lindsay Lohan tweeted that she enjoyed NIA's latest documentary, there were dozens of stories in the media about it. However, there was very little media coverage yesterday about the Pew Research Center's findings.

Ron Paul also leads all of the other Republican candidates in Google searches. Paul is currently receiving 823,000 monthly searches on Google compared to Bachmann in second with 673,000 monthly searches and Perry in third with 550,000 monthly searches. Cain and Romney are both tied with only 246,000 monthly searches. Flavor of the month Gingrich who the media is now portraying as the potential new frontrunner has been receiving only 165,000 monthly searches, which shows that Gingrich really has no grassroots support and that his artificial support is being fueled by the mainstream media trying to manipulate the minds of voters.

Ron Paul in September won the California GOP Presidential straw poll, but it got almost no mention at all by the mainstream media. At around the same time, Herman Cain won the Florida GOP Presidential straw poll and it became the number one story on the news with the media declaring Cain a serious threat to win the nomination. If you search on Google for "Ron Paul" and "California straw poll winner" only 25,400 results appear. However, if you search on Google for "Herman Cain" and "Florida straw poll winner" you get 54,600 results.

Last night on FOX News, they kept airing commercials repeatedly for upcoming FOX News segments about Perry and what he is doing to get back into the race with Romney and Gingrich. Perry has no chance of recovering from his current support on Intrade of 2.1%. In a recent GOP debate, Perry copied both Ron Paul and NIA by talking about branches of the government that he claims he wants to eliminate. The only problem is, Perry forgot the branches of government. It became clear to all watching the debate that Perry is merely trying to recite lines that he has memorized and is not a real Presidential candidate. Paul has been talking about eliminating many branches of government for decades and when Paul speaks, you can tell he is a real genuine candidate who speaks for himself and means what he says. Perry is just a parrot and if he were elected, he would not follow through with anything he has been attempting to say.

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If Ron Paul was the nominee, I'd vote for him.

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register rep and vote for him .


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Not a registered Rep, but if he makes general election I will.

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hope he makes it that far


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A real American, a real person. Someone who has worked his whole life to get where he is. Someone that doesn't hide behind the government and is out to pull the curtain down and show everyone the truth. This is who we need to fix our nations problems.
Read it and think about it. Not someone out selling books or pushing different sayings along the line, just saying the truth.
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that's a fact jack! hopefully this will be his season

the Houston Texans made it to playoffs, so mb it is just a year for underdogs, haha


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As much as the media tries to keep him from the spotlight, Im glad to see his popularity growing! Hes got my vote!

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As much as the media tries to keep him from the spotlight, Im glad to see his popularity growing! Hes got my vote!
A lot of people are paying a lot of money to keep him off the press. He's not on the papers, not on TV, but they can't control the net. He's the only candidate that has a chance against Obama.
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heard somebody from Iowa today make a very exciting point.

he said that it is common for conservatives and extreme conservatives not to participate
in the main stream polls. he said they do not believe they are accurate and would rather not even bother.

he was saying that if Ron Paul is showing double digits in the main stream media polls that suggests he is actually doing quite a bit better because when all of those conservatives in Iowa come out to vote for him they will be unaccounted for.


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Never participated in any poll before. I refuse. They can sway the results of these things so much. Vote for Paul for change back to the Constitution. Real budget cuts not cutting the automatic 10% increase annually that is automatic. Get rid of these agencies that do nothing but cost money.

Is it so hard to run a business and just break even? Especially when all the money that is given to you to run the business isn't even yours? For those that are wondering I am referring to the United States Post Office. All those pensions that were promised are now coming due.




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with the debt soaring over 17,000,000,000,000,000 (trillion takes a long time to type out.. just think about how long it takes to pay back) we have to cut our bills and raise our income.


somebody made a point that if for example ron paul is prez and dramatically reduces the size of our military that all those people who are in the military would now be back at home with no job... i suppose seeing the unempl. rate so high this would be a concern.

however, one way to make money is to make things and sell them.. like what the USA used to do. 'made in USA' used to mean it was made to last and nothing else was of better quality.

perhaps if all those military cats came home and started building things we could save money on the military spending and gain money though goods and services.

i don't really know what it takes to run a country, but i do know that when you cannnot afford something you usually do not get it.

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As much as I support Ron Paul I don't see the men behind the curtain allowing him to become POTUS. I fear his growing support will only cause them to create another 911 and declare martial law, keeping their puppet in power as a dictator. Ron Paul does not fit their agenda.

We have to realize that our so called government has basically declared war on all Americans with the passing of "The National Defense Authorization Act". The POTUS, Congress, and the Senate do not represent the people of the America. So how do you think Ron Paul will do if he is elected POTUS? They would stone wall him even more than they do today. Electing another "President" is not going to fix or change anything in this country. We should have learned that with the Bush's and the Obamination. Sorry to be such a skeptic on this one.....



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honestly man i feel exactly the same way.

the shadow government, men behind the curtain, most def would not want/let ron paul be POTUS( had to google that acronym lol)
and the idea of another 911 to initiate marital law is a very real possibility. very scary.

seems majority of the people in the top of government are like newt gingrich in that they are paid off and sell there mouths to the highest bidders.

on the other hand however, at what point will our military refuse to follow the orders...
i know a lot of cats here have served or are currently serving, personally i tried to get in but a back injury kept me from being eligible. so, at what point would the military stop being loyal to the people behind the curtain and start being loyal to the people of the country of which they fight for?

i would hope that they can still think for themselves enough to determine the difference between what is right and wrong for our country.

"against all enemies foreign and domestic"

rings so true these days.

ron paul would have to pull a Maximus from Gladiator move, abuse his powers as president to dissolve the powers of big government and deliver the country back to the people.

did you know dr. ron paul delivered chuck norris? i think he could pull this off. =)


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on the other hand however, at what point will our military refuse to follow the orders...
i know a lot of cats here have served or are currently serving, personally i tried to get in but a back injury kept me from being eligible. so, at what point would the military stop being loyal to the people behind the curtain and start being loyal to the people of the country of which they fight for?

i would hope that they can still think for themselves enough to determine the difference between what is right and wrong for our country.

"against all enemies foreign and domestic"

rings so true these days.
And there you have the recipe for the 2nd revolution and civil war. We have to realize that they are filling the ranks with their socialist cronies as well as trying to brain wash the good soldiers/LEO's left. If they can't brain wash them then they blackmail them and drive them out. That's why we've seen such a rash of "retirements" from top officials from the military and local LEO's. They're fed up with fighting this "system".

Why is it that our military personnel are so quick to drag foreign citizens out of their homes like criminals? Why is it they are being taught that the Constitution does not apply to foreign citizens in their own homeland? Why is it that our military is running "exercises" on our homeland with foreign troops teaching our young marines to ignore the Constitution?

I fear these same young military personnel will not realize what they have done until the FEMA camps are all full. Then what do they do? Do they dare buck the "system"?

What needs to happen is we need to get a petition started for all Military, LEO, or citizen alike to sign, reaffirming their firm belief and complete support in the Oath of Office they took and the US Constitution. That way we can get a clue as to where everyone stands.


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And there you have the recipe for the 2nd revolution and civil war.

I fear these same young military personnel will not realize what they have done until the FEMA camps are all full. Then what do they do? Do they dare buck the "system"?

What needs to happen is we need to get a petition started for all Military, LEO, or citizen alike to sign, reaffirming their firm belief and complete support in the Oath of Office they took and the US Constitution. That way we can get a clue as to where everyone stands.
i could not have said it better myself. we are like two peas in a pod. and anti big government pod.

i have that fear raising the hairs on the back of my neck. 2nd rev war esque stuff seems like a possibility.

i cannot stand it when people agree that 'safety' is worth more than their civil rights.

had this argument with a dotnet member the other day, he is an airforce pilot and was saying that the patriot act and homeland security acts are necessary to keep us safe... really made me angry.

on the other hand, ron paul gets more money from military than anybody else, that is a good sign if you know what i mean.


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The people will not be able to rise up because we are not united. They create ficticious 'right' and 'left' argument... making folks think 'big government' or 'big coporate' are two sides and we have to pick one or the other... they are one in the same. The corporations 'are' the ones providing that money that buys off those politicians. There is no right and left... that's just a game to make us fight against one another so we can't rise up against them. Divided we fall kinda chit.

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^ i think we have been stacked against bigger odds and came out on top-

claiming defeat before the battle even begins will never assure you victory.


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^ i think we have been stacked against bigger odds and came out on top-

claiming defeat before the battle even begins will never assure you victory.
Heh :) I hear ya... perhaps I like posting comments like that above to perhaps spurn some thought in some to think about joining forces... perhaps a challenge.

Almost a comment to others in a third person perspective.

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i think i made this rant in another thread earlier but i found a guy playing GT5 and he named his room, NewtGringrich2012.
this really annoyed me so i joined to tell him so.

i said, newt, what a tool and a sell out why would you vote for him? they asked who i liked, i said Paul. then they had some "sigh" or whatnot, so i said vote for freedom not a sell out.

the guy said " freedom isnt free man"


i left but the comment bugged me. wtf does that actually mean?
after thinking it over i came to the conclusion that, actually it is free for us.
we were born with the freedom we have because somebody fought for it sure, but did we personally have to fight for our freedom? nope. when was the last time the USA was invaded and occupied? so yea as far as i am concerned it is free to us but still never understood WTF the guy's point was...


mort, i hear ya, you should spark the fires on the otherside of the fence and choose optimism instead of being pessimistic. =)


who honestly does not want to live free though... who would choose living under a tyrant, dictator, a king...


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who honestly does not want to live free though... who would choose living under a tyrant, dictator, a king...
The fearful and uneducated, which is a huge part of that 99%. Ya, they may have gone to college or graduated from private schools, but all of that information is biased.

A revolutionary/civil war with our military wouldn't be a revolution, it would be a massacre. The way war is conducted these days, civilians wouldn't have much of a chance against the technology and training of the US's armed forces.. They would have little to no defense virtually no leadership or offensive capabilities. On top of that, to get the kind of revolt from within the military that you are talking about would take a LOT of clout from a high ranking military official. Clout I fear no one has anymore.. especially considering that most high ranking military officials are deeply rooted in politics and continuing their career after the military.

People are pack animals by nature.. those in the military that would stand up would be quickly disposed of by those that didn't have an opinion or just wanted to follow orders. I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic.

I'd like to think that other nations would come to the aid of the American citizens in such a scenario, but I doubt anyone would know what to do. It would be a "let them solve their own problem" scenario since our military could still pretty much obliterate just about any other force that could perform any sort of an "invasion". The only hope IMHO would be to spread our military so thin across several fronts that they couldn't hold out against everyone.

This is all extremely hypothetical. Not to mention most of the civilian freedom fighters that are suggesting this type of revolt are hardcore online gamers that know nothing of actual firearms/battle. They wouldn't be able to clean their guns, if they even had any, let alone put up a fight against trained and seasoned military personnel. This of course doesn't include retired/former military personnel. But in that regard, retired NCO's(experienced and typically career military personnel) and officers can be called back to active duty by their respective branches. A lot of those people are already extremely devoted to the federal government and wouldn't stand up with civilians.

/tangent

Anyway.. change needs to happen, but I don't see it going down without total global involvement.. ie another world war or natural disaster on a truly global scale.

We are so boned..

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do any of you know anything about Intrade?

read an email from inflation.us and they mentioned intrade.com.

so i checked it out and it seems really fun, i mean it seems like gambling and well i like to gamble.

only problem is they do not accept cards based in the US, apparently the US has put restrictions on... damn! looked like a lot of fun.

right now RonPaul had like a 4.9% chance to win prez2012- so you can buy one share at $0.49
if the event occurs then the cost goes up to $10.00 if it does not occur it drops to $0.00

so if you were to but 10 shares that RP will win at $0.49 per share you would make around $95.00 profit.

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Actually he is selling books, I say this because there was a link somewhere on lewrockwell.com where they showed the covers of books that politicians wrote, and they were all about themselves with their faces on the covers except for ron's which were solely written about liberty in one aspect or another, I wish I could find the link.

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awesome news. He's been receiving my support for years!
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Look at that. Must not be pushing it as hard as the others, working towards something that matters more than selling a book. Seems like every time I hear one of the others in an interview the last think they mention is the title of their "books(s)"




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yea i understood what you mean when you said he wasnt out to publish books tho T.

he is not in it to be a celebrity, he just wants to defend the const. and BoR

damn itd be something if he were to make it all the way. i wonder how he would do his first term


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He said it clear as day
"The government can't protect us from ourselves"
That is what they are doing and trying more and more to protect us. What will happen if government says motorcycles are dangerous and you shouldn't have one. What then? Where do you stand with that?




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i just finished watching that, just woke up and heard about it. very very cool.

i love the videos from inflation.us

here is their latest one.



here is a link to their video page with other very interesting very relevant videos

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Huge change in Intrade today, mb yesterday, i didnt check it, but checked it just now and wow!

newt went from being overwhelmingly favored to win GOP at 60% or more and now has dropped to 8%, ron paul is i would 2nd now because he has the same % as newt. Mitt is favored with 65% or so.

i figured Newt would fall from grace, flavor of the week as the Paul campaign said was spot on. now the only problem is Mitt-who is remarkably close to Obama in the ideology of government.

intrade looks fun, i just got to get some cash on there so i can make some bets.

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