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US Capitol Shooting

Don't know how many of you guys heard about this yet, it just happened

http://www.nytimes.com/news/fiscal-c...-capitol/?_r=0


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Capitol police could be seen with semi-automatic rifles drawn as they scrambled for position on the Capitol grounds.
how come when police have them, they are called semi-automatic rifles, but when we the civilians have them they are called assault rifles?

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Bad deal all around. Haven't heard of any fatalities, which is good, just an officer injured. Hopefully not too bad. here's to full and speedy recovery.
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The next American Revolution has started!

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Just heard on the radio that it started with a car chase that ended by the capitol when the guy got out of his car and shot the cop that was chasing him. I don't think it was actually on the capitol grounds

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I just read that the shots were only those of the officers. A woman was actually trying to ram the White House hate with her vehicle and the cops open fired while on pursuit. The officer injured, was not injured due to gun fire.


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SNAP! i cant imagine how things would be

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I just read that the shots were only those of the officers. A woman was actually trying to ram the White House hate with her vehicle and the cops open fired while on pursuit. The officer injured, was not injured due to gun fire.


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already conflicting stories lol... that's why I don't usually pay attention to the news for details

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SNAP! i cant imagine how things would be
It would be crazy, but awesome at the same time. History isn't made by people who wish things would change, it's made by people who do something about it.

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Suspect killed. It was a woman. She had a child in the car. Just sad.

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Tried to ram the gates with a black infinity. Crazy! And she had to know she was going to die, and put a child in danger. Man.... Mental health screenings anyone?


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One source said injured, the other said not injured, and the last one said she's dead. :screwy:
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Tried to ram the gates with a black infinity. Crazy! And she had to know she was going to die, and put a child in danger. Man.... Mental health screenings anyone?


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One source said injured, the other said not injured, and the last one said she's dead. :screwy:
There was an officer that was injured. The suspect is dead.
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The next American Revolution has started!
We need it, Obama says that the only way to end the shutdown is to do what HE says. No meeting part way, no negotiations.

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We need it, Obama says that the only way to end the shutdown is to do what HE says. No meeting part way, no negotiations.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1
But he gives us free cell phones! He can't be THAT bad can he?

Free cell phones that materialized from no where so no one had to pay for them, they are just magical and free.

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We need it, Obama says that the only way to end the shutdown is to do what HE says. No meeting part way, no negotiations.

What are the republicans offering as a compromise? Because all I've seen is that they'll end the shutdown if the dems agree to defund and/or delay implementation of the ACA. That is NOT a compromise. Unless the repubs WANT the govt to stay shutdown, which I think they do.

In fact, I'll do one better. Below is a link to a letter that a republican senator sent to Speaker Bohner way back in August where he actually encourages using the power of the purse to try to defund Obamacare. In the aforementioned letter, Senator Meadows urges Bohner to include the defunding of Obamacare in any and all appropriations bills. He also goes on to mention a quote from James Madison that references the "power over the purse" as "the most complete and effectual weapon for obtaining a redress of every grievance". If that's not an endorsement of a govt shutdown just to get what they want, I don't know what is.

http://meadows.house.gov/uploads/Mea...fundLetter.pdf

Why would Bohner agree to this? Because 80 out of the 237 (I think) repub senators in the house signed the letter. Bohner needs all 80 of them, along with all the other repubs that didn't sign it, to pass anything. That's why he agreed to it. That, and so they can use it for their next election in their heavily conservative districts as a talking point.

President Obama has offered to compromise. He wants a clean bill passed to end the shutdown and then to sit down and negotiate over spending, obamacare, etc. separately like the separate issues that they are. It's just dumb to tie peoples jobs, paychecks, and livelihood to their desire to do away with the Affordable Care Act. And in the end, it's all for their primary battles they'll face in the midterm elections in their heavily red leaning districts. They need that talking point to emphasize that they did all they could to end the ACA.
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What are the republicans offering as a compromise? Because all I've seen is that they'll end the shutdown if the dems agree to defund and/or delay implementation of the ACA. That is NOT a compromise. Unless the repubs WANT the govt to stay shutdown, which I think they do.

In fact, I'll do one better. Below is a link to a letter that a republican senator sent to Speaker Bohner way back in August where he actually encourages using the power of the purse to try to defund Obamacare. In the aforementioned letter, Senator Meadows urges Bohner to include the defunding of Obamacare in any and all appropriations bills. He also goes on to mention a quote from James Madison that references the "power over the purse" as "the most complete and effectual weapon for obtaining a redress of every grievance". If that's not an endorsement of a govt shutdown just to get what they want, I don't know what is.

http://meadows.house.gov/uploads/Mea...fundLetter.pdf

Why would Bohner agree to this? Because 80 out of the 237 (I think) repub senators in the house signed the letter. Bohner needs all 80 of them, along with all the other repubs that didn't sign it, to pass anything. That's why he agreed to it. That, and so they can use it for their next election in their heavily conservative districts as a talking point.

President Obama has offered to compromise. He wants a clean bill passed to end the shutdown and then to sit down and negotiate over spending, obamacare, etc. separately like the separate issues that they are. It's just dumb to tie peoples jobs, paychecks, and livelihood to their desire to do away with the Affordable Care Act. And in the end, it's all for their primary battles they'll face in the midterm elections in their heavily red leaning districts. They need that talking point to emphasize that they did all they could to end the ACA.
this isn't a republican vs democratic topic... This is about the crazy motherfucker who caused a rukus in Washington DC today by driving her car into the barricades by the White House


plus you already made almost the same exact post over in the goverment shutdown thread

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But he gives us free cell phones! He can't be THAT bad can he?

Free cell phones that materialized from no where so no one had to pay for them, they are just magical and free.
Haven't we crossed this bridge yet?

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this isn't a republican vs democratic topic... This is about the crazy motherfucker who caused a rukus in Washington DC today by driving her car into the barricades by the White House


plus you already made almost the same exact post over in the goverment shutdown thread
I'm not the one that brought all this up. Was just replying to TheX. But I agree, this is about that crazy person that injured someone and put their child in danger as well. Just sad.
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What are the republicans offering as a compromise? Because all I've seen is that they'll end the shutdown if the dems agree to defund and/or delay implementation of the ACA. That is NOT a compromise. Unless the repubs WANT the govt to stay shutdown, which I think they do.
OMGLOL!!!!

I think you think wrong. Obama refuses to even discuss options, it's his way or death. You keep on waiting for that hope and change, I'm sure it'll happen. In the meantime I'll keep keep paying more and more for people that do less and less. You must be one of the entitled ones. Do you have any idea what is going to happen when those TRILLIONS of dollars in debt come due? He is growing our debt at levels far beyond grotesque. Sorry, you probably hate facts, they screw up your attempted logic.
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OMGLOL!!!!

I think you think wrong. Obama refuses to even discuss options, it's his way or death. You keep on waiting for that hope and change, I'm sure it'll happen. In the meantime I'll keep keep paying more and more for people that do less and less. You must be one of the entitled ones. Do you have any idea what is going to happen when those TRILLIONS of dollars in debt come due? He is growing our debt at levels far beyond grotesque. Sorry, you probably hate facts, they screw up your attempted logic.
Man, isn't it terrible what happened today with that crazy person in Washington? You know, the one whom this thread was started because of? Just a sad situation.

I'd be happy to discuss other topics in one of the other threads in which I've been posting those elusive facts you so eloquently referenced above.
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Man, isn't it terrible what happened today with that crazy person in Washington? You know, the one whom this thread was started because of? Just a sad situation.

I'd be happy to discuss other topics in one of the other threads in which I've been posting those elusive facts you so eloquently referenced above.
Your posts are a bit bipolar. Back to topic, seems like it was some woman who got angry and did something irrational resulting in her death. Doubt she thought it through; tragic for the child.

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It would be crazy, but awesome at the same time. History isn't made by people who wish things would change, it's made by people who do something about it.
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We need it


We sure do and as far as things are out of whack it's probably the only thing that'll fix it.
There's been craploads of talk about it for the last few years but nobody wants to start it.
Our military structure is so big that I think the only way to do it is for the military to say what the F guys and walk off the job.

As long as we all keep our heads in the sand nothing will happen but the further degradation of our lives.
(Well hello NSA, it's nice to see you. At least you're still working)

Even if it didn't start at the military level and the general public started a revolution it would leave us open to attack from other countries.
A lot of uncertainty keeps it from happening.

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