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Unhappy 2008 CBR600RR BLEW over - Need advice and help

Ugh... well it finally happened

First tipped bike in 3 years of riding and I wasn't on it, or near it. I was on a drive after fixing up my car, and came back to the most depressing site. My CBR on its side next to my Yomamaha. Apparently bikes can blow over. It's windy here today but not a storm by any means. Although windy enough to really piss me off apparently.

See below for pics of the damage. I added up parts costs and it's looking like about $1k through Partzilla. Thinking it might be time to go aftermarket, I have a lot of things going on right now and saving $500 would make a big difference to me. Am I going to be disappointed in quality by brands like Extreme or Auctmarts? I've read tons of threads on this and it's so tough to get a consensus on this.

Also, if anybody is in the Ark-La-Tex and knows how to swap fairings I would appreciate your help with this a lot. I'll provide the beer and food and conversation. I've never done this kind of job before and am dumb enough to let wind ruin my day.
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Fairing ties



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I've seen plastic welder shops that could repair that in a day or so....in other countries.

FWIW, you might try a high end auto repair place...?

They've gotten into plastics repair, and are using heat welding equipment to repair the very $$$ plastic front/rears of cars....

Those fairings could be repaired fairly easily, in countries with more motorcycles on the road.

In Thailand, those repairs, would run you about $200 or less.

Sorry, not much help.

That's all I got
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Ebay has a decent amount of used graffit fairings. I would look there...If that doesnt work out, Auctmarts has non-oem graffiti farings.

Either way, used on ebay or from Auctmarts (or something similar), you would probably only have to spend a couple hundred bucks...there are "how to's" on the forum that show you how to take the fairings off also.
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Just leave it for now, that's barely noticeable. If you're tight for cash wait a bit and then work out whether you want to go the oem or non-oem route.

If you plan on selling the bike anytime soon, non-oem will greatly reduce the value of your bike unless someone who doesn't know any better buys it. Also you may have trouble with fitment due to a mismatch of oem/non-oem tolerances.

Oem is great, but yea... $$$

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Your saying the wind had 100lbs or more of force? That's a huge storm level of force to push a bike up to level and then over onto its side from a sidestand. I'm betting someone pushed it or sat on it and fell over.

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Yes, wind can push a bike over - of any size and it happens all the time.

It happened to mine once. Fortunately the other side was all grass and I had frame sliders. So no damage.

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My bike has never gone over in wind (knock on wood), and this is through a tornado 1 mile away. I agree with bored and stroked, better chance of it being pushed, then wind. Then again, we don't know how much angle the bike was leaned over on the kick stand. It might have been near balance point, in which case a decent wind from either side could knock it over.
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Your saying the wind had 100lbs or more of force? That's a huge storm level of force to push a bike up to level and then over onto its side from a sidestand. I'm betting someone pushed it or sat on it and fell over.
I see it happen real often here in SoCal when the Santa Ana winds come by. People leave their bikes out and the winds just knock them over with heavy gusts. Sometimes it just slowly wiggles the bike and overtime it gets to a position that it just takes one more strong gust to knock it over.
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Just an observation, but the damage to your rear cowl area shows cracks as if it shattered and the edges look white to me which in my experience says you already have aftermarket fairings on the bike. OEM will crack but not shatter and will be black ABS plastic, not white.

You may want to double check that, will probably make your decision that much easier.

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Good observation Miweber.

The finish and thickness of those fairings do not like OEM style - but I have never seen that Graffiti edition up close and personal or have much experience with the 07+ bikes so can't say for sure.

A search based on your VIN indicates it's 2008 California Spec.

CBR600RR8_A - and it came with the Graffiti edition fairings as standard, but the previous owner could have of course put aftermarket on it.

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Actually, yea...the more I look at yours and other supposed OEM ones in comparison the more it looks like that yours is aftermarket. For one, the Honda logo font is not quite right, either the spacing or the characters themselves. Only you can properly compare it...with what is most likely the OEM logo on the right.



1) The spacing between 'N' and 'D', and also the funny extension coming from the 'N' at the bottom of the letter on yours
2) The position of 'O' between 'H' and 'N' doesn't look right either.
3) The bulging bit of 'D' is bigger in the OEM
4) The stalks of the 'N' are thinner on yours.

It could all be the angle and lighting, but worth a look. Most brands have a set font, and the way they are printed rarely change.


The graphics of the stickering on your tank is also differently shaped slightly to the OEM, and the positions are also slightly off. For example the stickering towards the end of your tank on the LHS is going over the curvature/ridge, but the OEM one has it well below. And this gap here...




I used this eBay link as reference and a couple of people's YT vids of their Graffiti edition:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/07-12-HONDA...-/172880098727

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I see it happen real often here in SoCal when the Santa Ana winds come by. People leave their bikes out and the winds just knock them over with heavy gusts. Sometimes it just slowly wiggles the bike and overtime it gets to a position that it just takes one more strong gust to knock it over.
Thats crazy! We get monsoon dust storms with huge gusts and I've still never heard of it happening.
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Socal is a seaside oasis tucked next to a desert. There are some hills and mountains here that, especially when it is hot out, drive gusting wind down into the city areas. When I was at the track, wind was strong enough to toss wheel chocks into the area; felt like a cat 1 hurricane at times. It can get windy.
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My friend has a '15 Ninja 300.

She was out of town and her apartment complex called her to tell her that her bike blew over in a storm.

I told her that was totally BS. Because I was the one who went over there to pick it back up and it was heavy as **** getting it back up on its side, and it fell over opposite the side of the kickstand.

There was a really strong storm that day, but there was also repair work done to the carport cover (because it blew away). I thought the construction workers knocked it over. Maybe it really was wind.

Interesting.
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Winds have removed houses from their foundations and uprooted trees.

Why do people think it can't push a motorcycle over. Seriously :S?

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Winds have removed houses from their foundations and uprooted trees.

Why do people think it can't push a motorcycle over. Seriously :S?
Because those types of winds are reported on the news as serious storms, hurricanes, tornados etc, not sunny sunday afternoon's while getting ice cream.

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my question for the OP is; was the bike sitting on a level surface or was it possibly on a downward slope, or kickstand sitting on a raised surface thereby decreasing the lean angle?

If the bike was on a level surface, I agree, it would take some serious wind to knock it over in either direction.

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Fairing ties



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- halloween themed
- sort of works with that livery
LOL, that is awesome! Even my fairings aren't as bad as those. I'd definitely be painting my zip ties a different color so they stand out more - love a fast bike looking trashed but still banging out the RPM's like new. Street sleeper FTW.
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Because those types of winds are reported on the news as serious storms, hurricanes, tornados etc, not sunny sunday afternoon's while getting ice cream.
Correct, those are serious storms. It takes serious storms to uplift houses and trees, because they weigh how much? How strong is their foundation?

Your motorcycle doesn't have a strong foundation like that, and probably weighs 1/1000th, therefore it's VERY reasonable that a slightly strong wind can push it over, especially if someone has parked on an incline incorrectly.

You can't see the wind, but you can with a bit of analysis figure out how wind channels and how much force it will have once it reaches a narrow area.

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Wind can and will blow a motorcycle over. I've sadly had it happen to me, not my RR though, but my old F2 streetfighter. Thankfully being a streetfighter there was no real damage.

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Woah.. never seen anything like this
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Haha, really? It's sort of a thing in the drift car scene, but any plastics can be tied like this. Love a good rat bike!



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