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Bike won’t start. won’t even prime

i changed the oil after winterizing it. woke up trying to go for a ride didn’t want to prime and after so many tries it worked and worked fine throughout the whole day and here we go again came home for 30 min and didn’t want to start once again. i figure out when i turn off and on fast it will pump but sometimes won’t start
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Try turning the ignition on and off several times before cranking to let the pump prime. If this works, its fuel related. Either clogged filter or pump going bad etc.

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battery in good condition?
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Try turning the ignition on and off several times before cranking to let the pump prime. If this works, its fuel related. Either clogged filter or pump going bad etc.
the pump won’t prime. sometime it will sometime it won’t. if i flick the ignition off and on real fast it will work.
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battery in good condition?
about year old. have it on battery tender throu the winter. like i said if i turn the ignition off and on real fast it will prime some time i works perfectly fine sometime it won’t prime u less i flick fast. once it runs it runs perfect pretty much
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does your bike have HISS?
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does your bike have HISS?
not sure what does that mean? check engine light or like flashing? is there a way i can post videos here? but no lights nothing just won’t prime. i have a decent video but can upload it here.
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no hiss is the honda security system.
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no hiss is the honda security system.
nope. don’t have it
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no hiss is the honda security system.
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and besides those issues. runs perfect and it will sometimes prime normally 10/10 times
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when it doesn't prime, does the FI and HESD light come on?

turning your key quickly has nothing to do with your problem, you're just looking too hard for patterns.
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when it doesn't prime, does the FI and HESD light come on?

turning your key quickly has nothing to do with your problem, you're just looking too hard for patterns.
no it doesn’t.
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Then it's your kill switch, bank angle sensor, or engine stop relay.

I'm pretty sure the kill switch is white/yellow and black in the connector. Just put a wire jumper in the back of the connector and see if the problem persists
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when it doesn't prime, does the FI and HESD light come on?

turning your key quickly has nothing to do with your problem, you're just looking too hard for patterns.
nope. nothing
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jump out the kill switch as i told you to do in my last post. it's either that, the BAS, or the relay. or some issue in that circuit.
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jump out the kill switch as i told you to do in my last post. it's either that, the BAS, or the relay. or some issue in that circuit.
can you explain it? i’m not that good with figuring out issues with bikes.i just know how to ride them haha.
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Then it's your kill switch, bank angle sensor, or engine stop relay.

I'm pretty sure the kill switch is white/yellow and black in the connector. Just put a wire jumper in the back of the connector and see if the problem persists
i didn’t see this post. so inside the kill switch i’ll find the wires?
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no, in the connector where the kill switch pod plugs in
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no, in the connector where the kill switch pod plugs in
is there a plug in behind the kill switch?
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it's below the tank cover.
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it's below the tank cover.
i’ll look at it when i get back. is it hard to get too? i still don’t understand the wire you talking about? can you howmmena pic or something?
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it's below the tank cover.
i just don’t understand what a wire jumper is. i’m a bit confused honestly on what to do. like take out the plug and what do i do with the wire? on the plug? i’m so lost. if you can explain in better tho hahaha plzzzz
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Connect the white yellow to the black with a piece of wire
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Had same issue, was broken wire b/w hiss and ignition
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Connect the white yellow to the black with a piece of wire
it hasn’t been doing it since i put.m new gas in but i turned it on this morning when it started it had a split second like it was going to die but nothing and i let it warm up and kinda feels sounds different but it could be me cause im like looking for a sound or problem haha also last two days i turned the bike on to let it run and 1 gas bar already got burned. wonder if i’m burning gas fast?

here is the video when i start it. i’m lost a cold start tomorrow kinda sounds like something from gas tank idk anymore

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Had same issue, was broken wire b/w hiss and ignition
did it look like that or you dogged in to see? it turns on now but kinda a weird start when it goes. especially on cold starts. i’m going to ride today see what happens
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if you aren't going to at least humor me by doing what i'm trying to walk you through, then i can't help you


hope you figure it out by making videos and doing nothing.
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start with a full charged battery, check kill switch, try to move wires around just to make sure they are fine and nothing its broken, then fuel pump relay, and bank sensor, make sure you have gas, that you FI its showing on the cluster, check fuses box, grown for poor connection, try to apply 8.6-12.4V to fuel pump on her own see if this work if does, then test fuel pump wires for signal, and trace your problem back from there.

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did it look like that or you dogged in to see? it turns on now but kinda a weird start when it goes. especially on cold starts. iím going to ride today see what happens
Mechanic opened the shroud cos thatís where the Honda diagnosis tool thing told him it traced it to.
As it bends around the bracket it broke, sometimes it would prime sometimes no.

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