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Your Trackbike and Streetbike same year/model?

About a year ago I posted a question about which one of my CBR's I should track, 02 F4i or a 07 600rr. I got alot of good advice and finally tracked my 07 and I havent stop grinning yet.

I just sold my F4i and now I am thinking of getting another bike for some afternoon canyon riding. I initally was going to get an 07-08 600 to make it easier and simplier to swap out parts and service. I have all my stock street stuff in a box in the garage which would come in handy if my streetbike needed them.

For some reason the 08-09 1000 has been tempting me. I get my fix on the track so I am usually the slower rider out on the street and just enjoy getting out for ride once in awhile detoxing from lifes daily grind. I know I dont need the power, but Im struggling since I have never rode the newer 1000. Id really like to hear what niner and the rest of you with 2 dedicated bikes have to to say.

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1000's are different monsters, thats for sure, much more torque.

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the new 1KRR is insane...just getting on the freeway nearly threw me off the damn thing. Very nice but I dont think you need that kind of power really....especially street.

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YA, from what I heard they are mid-range monsters, almost to much bike. Im going to look at an 08 1k silver/black w/ 4kmi. all stock for $9.3k this weekend. But I really wish this guy with a 08 600 with $8k in track goodies on it would at least let me see his bike and make a offer on it, but he thinks he will better off trading for a vehicle. I guess Ill know when I see it. To bad I didnt live in Texas

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I turned my 07 street bike into my trackbike, but if I decided to get back on the street I would do one of two things.

1. Get an enduro type bike to have fun in the dirt on weekends, and commute to work during the week, or...

2. Get a 08 1krr. The whole reason I got off the street and on the track is because I felt like I would soon become a statistic due to the way I ride and others drive, so this bike probably wouldnt be the best, but still... such an awesome bike. I know I'd want to open it up occasionally.
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I have an older 1KRR for a dedicated trackbike. It's an '04 but I've done the Ohlins shock on the rear, and the Ohlins internals up front. My street ride is an '07 600RR which I absolutely love, especially where I live in the mountains of East Tennessee. Down here,..........light is right......light weight that is. I had a 1000RR for the street ('05), and sold it to get the 600RR. I've never looked back and was considering selling my track 1000RR and getting a late model 600RR for the track also.

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I have an 06 RR street and 08 RR track. Some parts are interchangeable but that's not really why I did it. My next street bike might be a liter bike.
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My street bike and track bike. If I had to do over again, I would have bought the left over silver 08 600rr they had on the floor instead of the leftover 08 1000rr.



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Thanks for the replies. I initially sold my streetbike because I thought I wouldnt miss riding on the street and over the concern of becoming another statistic. I really only had one close call, and that was lane splitting in stopped traffic. Not to say that I couldnt have another more dire experience, but I usually ride backroads mid-week.

I also thought of getting a DRZ-400SM, but Id think Id have to get all new gear and learn a new riding style. Im starting to think the 1K is way to much bike for what Id ever be able to use, street or track. Plus theres a ton of 600's for sale and only one 1k.

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Well in my garage right now is:
08 1000RR
07 600RR
06 DR-Z400
01 ZX-7R
95 F3

So I have pretty much all you are considering lol

Remember every bike will suit every rider differently. I love my 08 1000RR, which is my dedicated street bike, but does get to see quite a bit of track time.

If I were to do it all over again, I honestly don't know if my 600RR would be in the garage.

The 600RR, is an AWESOME trackbike as you know. When I decided to make it my trackbike my other bike at the time was an 04 1000RR. So the choice was obvious and simple. The 04 1kRR was a TANK! And I was EASILY 3-4 seconds a lap faster on the 600RR than I was on the 1000RR.

But since, I have the 08 1000RR and can honestly say that the 08+ drastically closes the gap on the difference between the bikes.

My laps times between the 2 are nearly identical now. (but the 08 1kRR is completely stock, including the suspension setting) So you can see there is a LOT of room for me to play here.

But for the street I think the literbike is a no brainer (for me). But my history of bikes include: 04 1000RR, (2) different 02 954RR's, a 929, 96 ZX-6, 03 600RR, 04 600RR, 05 600RR, 86 Hurricane, couple cruisers, and the bikes that are currently in my garage. (and maybe a couple I am missing...)

For the DR-Z400, that bike is a BLAST to ride! Especially on the track. But for the street, not so much. At 70-80 highway speeds it is CRYING! And it's obnoxiously loud. But again a blast on the track.





"at 8k i often get the tire to slip a bit(kinda like stoner in motogp) when i start to get on the throttle"
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Actually and lately I have been doing mostly just control riding at a local track, and been using the 1000RR to do so.

I find it easier to CR on, you can very easily one handed just twist the throttle and pull in front of your students, which comes in handy when think you are trying to race them when you are trying to give them some instructions.

When you pull away one handed sitting up, looking back pointing at them they get the idea.


"at 8k i often get the tire to slip a bit(kinda like stoner in motogp) when i start to get on the throttle"
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^^^^ Before you had your 1k for CR. LOL Although I find it hard to believe you need it, but makes it easier to do your job. Reminds me of one time at a beginner track school, my 2nd one, I was a 1/4 of a lap ahead and lost my instructor when he was trying to critique my skills.


Lots of great opinions, Thanks for posting up. My wife doesnt offer much help (she is totally cool about me getting another bike), but is like "how much is the silver one?, OH go get that one. What about that red one, its pretty".

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LMAO!

yea true.

For CR'ing, yea I do find it makes life slightly easier. Mostly because Novice and lower Intermediate riders are slow(er) in the corners anyway, so that's not the issue, it the point and shoot part of it, especially those with literbikes out there.

Yea I may be faster than them on the 600, but when them on their literbikes are just turning, shooting and pinning it in the straights it makes it slightly harder to do my job.

Most of your instruction is done on the straights and that's where I need the added HP.

Works out well.

And it keeps me in check too, cause I am not going out there and pushing it on my "street" bike. lol


"at 8k i often get the tire to slip a bit(kinda like stoner in motogp) when i start to get on the throttle"
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I also have been entertaining the idea of a VFR, CRAZY huh? Everybody who has one says its a great heavy nimble bike. Like 2 bikes in one for sport riding and touring.

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My advice is to not get the same bike if you're going to have one for track and one for street. You're only going to own a finite number of bikes in your lifetime, you might as well branch out and try something new.

I had an '06 1000RR when I picked up my '07 600RR that has since become the track bike. I've sold the 1000RR, and hadn't planned to replace it. Then I got to looking around and decided this would be a lot of fun for a street bike....



It's my first Ducati ever, and so far so good. It's a ton of fun, and way different than the rice burners.

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My advice is to not get the same bike if you're going to have one for track and one for street. You're only going to own a finite number of bikes in your lifetime, you might as well branch out and try something new.

I had an '06 1000RR when I picked up my '07 600RR that has since become the track bike. I've sold the 1000RR, and hadn't planned to replace it. Then I got to looking around and decided this would be a lot of fun for a street bike....



It's my first Ducati ever, and so far so good. It's a ton of fun, and way different than the rice burners.
Is you DUC comfortable for street riding? Ive always read that its a pure track sex weapon, but ergos are not so great for street. Thats why the VFR is so appealing to me, good enough for twisties and longer rides.

That being said Im having a tough time making up my mind. DAMMIT all to hell no test rides.

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In terms of width between the legs, the Duc is way more comfortable. It's a lot more narrow because of twin motor. Getting off the seat is very easy. However, the downside is that the distance between the seat and the triple clamps is longer, so your body is a little more forward with more weight on your hands.

It is very clear that this bike was not designed for long rides. The 1000RR wasn't comfy either, but it sure looked good and was fast as heck. Had an R6 too, it was ok. The most comfortable sport bike I've owned so far was my F4i with the big banana seat.

If I wanted something sporty but comfortable for long rides with a passenger I think the VFR would be my first choice. I'd love to have a BMW K1200S as well. They are absolute monsters of power, but crazy expensive. I'm just not their yet though, my body can still handle the sport bikes. I'm personally not a fan of the new 1000RR. It just is not an attractive bike at all. If you wanted to get a liter bike look into the new R1. It's the bees knees.

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Ya I had a F4i and was enjoying it, but for some strange reason I sold it, I guess I had a buyer willing to pay my asking price.
Theres a bunch of 848 around here for sale. I never had an issue with the width of my bikes Im 6'1" but the forward ergos of the Duc I think would kill my neck and shoulders after awhile. I could ride my 07 600rr for 4-5 hrs w/o any major complaints as far as ergos.
If riding blindfolded (hypothetically) what would you say is the major difference in the 848 compared to the 600rr?
Whats the motor, acceleration, drive like on the 848?
Does the more frequent,expensive maintenance consern you at all?

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I have a setup similar to kiggy74. 07 600RR for the track and a 08 Ducati 848 for the street.

I love the 848, but I am planning on selling it soon and getting something more comfortable for the street. I wouldn't mind something that I could take on a long trip without wanting to kill myself from the riding position.

After riding on the track for the last 4 years, I ride like a sissy on the street anyway.

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I have a setup similar to kiggy74. 07 600RR for the track and a 08 Ducati 848 for the street.

I love the 848, but I am planning on selling it soon and getting something more comfortable for the street. I wouldn't mind something that I could take on a long trip without wanting to kill myself from the riding position.

After riding on the track for the last 4 years, I ride like a sissy on the street anyway.
Thats what I thought, the ergos would kill me too. How tall are you and weigh if you dont mind?

I been riding track for 3 yrs. and I also drive like an old man on the streets, ever think of a VFR? Ive ask about it on my local bike forum and nothing but rave reviews. 5th(98?-01) and 6th gen.(02-09) bikes seem bulletproof, the only issue is the weight for in town riding, but on the open road, excellent.

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