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Dunlop 209GPs or Michelin Power Race?

Need a new set of tires for Road Atlanta. I can get a set of 209's from Derek via NESBA. Or I can get a set of Michelin Power One/Race through STG.

Dunlops are 370 shipped
Michelin's are 330 shipped

Which ones would you chose and why?

I have ridden Michelin and love the feel, but i hear the Dunlops are amazing...thoughts concerns questions? Littering and, littering and, littering and.........................smoking the refer!


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Both extremely good tires, for quite a while in the AMA only guys on Dunlop 209's even won races, it was crazy... that tire is just freakin insane... Insane grip, insane feedback, insane durability... I recommend it.

Believe it or not, I actually run Power Races typically, mostly because they are cheaper, work about 95% as well as 209's, and I am not going AMA top 3 race speed so its a little unnecessary to run the 209's for that little extra grip..

Just my two cents..
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Both extremely good tires, for quite a while in the AMA only guys on Dunlop 209's even won races, it was crazy... that tire is just freakin insane... Insane grip, insane feedback, insane durability... I recommend it.

Believe it or not, I actually run Power Races typically, mostly because they are cheaper, work about 95% as well as 209's, and I am not going AMA top 3 race speed so its a little unnecessary to run the 209's for that little extra grip..

Just my two cents..

Thanks Cling, just the feedback I am looking for!


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Thanks Cling, just the feedback I am looking for!
Oh yeah, and I do have extensive experience with both tires :) Good luck!
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http://www.dunlopracing.com/special.htm

Looks like dunlops are same $$. Your welcome. ;-)

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if you go with the michelins, stay away from the power race series. they have a good grip
threshold, but they tend to let go with little/no warning. supposedly they addressed this issue with the new power ones.

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http://www.dunlopracing.com/special.htm

Looks like dunlops are same $$. Your welcome. ;-)
They charge you for shipping...
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They charge you for shipping...
Yeah, so it is like 370 so, I would rather give my business to Derek...hmmmm choices choices....


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went with the Dunlops...I will let everyone know what i think after Road A


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went with the Dunlops...I will let everyone know what i think after Road A

Cool, by the way, the Dunlops start out notoriously HARD before they get warmed up very very hot, so MAKE SURE you have them completely track hot before you push them..
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After running Michelin power races for over a year, I just made the switch to dunlops on my last track weekend. I ran slicks the first day and the GP-A's the second. I was impressed. The slicks were straight up amazing and the GPA's were awesome too. The feel was simliar to the michelins but the durability was far surperior. the extra 50 bones is easily worth it considering how much longer the tire lasts.

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After running Michelin power races for over a year, I just made the switch to dunlops on my last track weekend. I ran slicks the first day and the GP-A's the second. I was impressed. The slicks were straight up amazing and the GPA's were awesome too. The feel was simliar to the michelins but the durability was far surperior. the extra 50 bones is easily worth it considering how much longer the tire lasts.

It was nice meeting you at Summit and hope to see you again soon buddy

Nice meeting you to, finally :all_coholhopefully I will make up to that super dooper elite status known as Advance so I can get towed around!


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Nice meeting you to, finally :all_coholhopefully I will make up to that super dooper elite status known as Advance so I can get towed around!
Believe me, you don't want a tow from me this year. I've been riding like garbage all season


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ok finished my track days at Road Atlanta with the 209 GPA's 120/190 combo!

and...

I am in LOVE with these tires!


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TONS OF GRIP!
Wear extremely well, with or without tire warmers
Never had any doubt when going into a corner hot

Conclusion:
Found my new brand of tires/size..now I need to sell a kidney to keep afford them at 370 a pop!


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did you feel any issues with going from a 180 rear to 190 rear?????
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did you feel any issues with going from a 180 rear to 190 rear?????

None what so ever, everyone says they can feel a difference. If they can feel that kind of difference they need to go be tire/test riders. They say it takes a split second more for you to get the bike over, I never ever could tell. I just noticed the more surface area grip!


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where you getting the rear tire all the way over on the 190??

I have noticed guys that run 190s on a 600(5.5 inch rim) on track...never seem to be able to use the entire contact patch. An there is a tiny weeny "chicken strip". Did you have this issue...

I was told the 003r 190 on a 5.5inch rim tends to "cup" therefore you actually get less contact to the ground. But only if your running ama pace you will notice the difference.

I enjoyed being on the older 208 GPAs 180 rear. But I am too skeptic right now to use the 190 yet. I will be using the b-stones 003r(180) for my next trackdays next month at Thunderhill raceway, ca. I will report back on those tires.
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where you getting the rear tire all the way over on the 190??

I have noticed guys that run 190s on a 600(5.5 inch rim) on track...never seem to be able to use the entire contact patch. An there is a tiny weeny "chicken strip". Did you have this issue...

I was told the 003r 190 on a 5.5inch rim tends to "cup" therefore you actually get less contact to the ground. But only if your running ama pace you will notice the difference.

I enjoyed being on the older 208 GPAs 180 rear. But I am too skeptic right now to use the 190 yet. I will be using the b-stones 003r(180) for my next trackdays next month at Thunderhill raceway, ca. I will report back on those tires.
the recommended wheel for the GPA 190 is a 5.5" I'm guessing Dunlop specifically engineered this tire for the smaller wheel. I always used the whole tire when I ran Michelin 190's. I understand what you are saying though.


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where you getting the rear tire all the way over on the 190??

I had less than a 1/4 inch of "non" wear, never could fully get it to the edge like the 180s but looking at this Bstones I have here in comparison, the "worn" part is about the same size on both tires. And the Bstones I went past the edge it seems like.


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dunlops my front has seen two hard days and ill run another on it i am ruff on my tires the rears dont hold up but then again the michelin rear i only get a day or a day and a half!
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Michelins life span sucks 2 days at nashville Flipped the tire before the 2nd day and the tire will only make one more session. Medium compound BTW
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