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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 11-22-2009, 08:36 AM Thread Starter
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Folks,

I took the Bargy school at Jennings yesterday. It freaking rocked! It was by far the best school I have ever attended. If you have never gone to a typical school, it works like this. A guy comes in, sits you down, and says, "OK, I'm really fast. You're not. First, let me tell you some tales of my fabulous career as a racer. Then, we'll go ride. Kinda try to do what I do. Of course, you won't be able to, because I'm fast, and you're not."

Bargy was totally different. He spent most of the day talking about the physics behind riding, cornering, and braking. He covered these areas in extremely fine detail. He also talked a lot about how to tell when you are approaching the "edge." It was very illuminating, and a lot of fun. His instructors were friendly and extremely helpful. I cannot recommend it highly enough.

Here are the three coolest things I learned in the school:

1. Adjust your line mid-corner with the throttle instead of steering. Steering inputs cause the front contact patch to wiggle, which uses up traction.

2. At the end of a long straightaway your front tire has cooled off significantly, so you have brake progressively, both to shift weight and to reheat the front tire.

3. The bike will try to stand up out of the turn when you are trail-braking. This is actually good, because when the bike stops trying to stand up, it means the front tire is starting to slip, so you need to ease off the brakes. (Note: This is entirely theoretical in my case. I'm too chicken to play around with this too much. Maybe next time.)

4. I brake like a girl. (Note: The instructors didn't actually say, "go bake me some cookies, Nancy," but I could tell they were thinking it.)

OK, that was four things. It was cool. You oughta do it.
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Folks,

I took the Bargy school at Jennings yesterday. It freaking rocked! It was by far the best school I have ever attended. If you have never gone to a typical school, it works like this. A guy comes in, sits you down, and says, "OK, I'm really fast. You're not. First, let me tell you some tales of my fabulous career as a racer. Then, we'll go ride. Kinda try to do what I do. Of course, you won't be able to, because I'm fast, and you're not."
So just what schools should we avoid, in your opinion? Tdub

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Im pretty excited to attend their last school of the year at Jennings. I hope I have as good of an experience as you!

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Here's something else I remembered as I was reviewing my notes. He said you should be upshifting out of a turn approximately when you reach the outside edge of the track on the far side of the turn. He said if you are doing it later than that, you are giving yourself a false sense of security because you are able to roll on lots of throttle coming out of the turn since your bike is not in the power band. Someday you will break the rear end loose coming out of a turn and your rear tire will immediately try to match your throttle setting. If you are the correct gear, the wheel will spin a little bit. If you are in too high of a gear, the tire will immediately go to your artificially high throttle setting. Ouch.
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Good info...I have been thinking of doing one of his classes. Thanks for posting

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4. I brake like a girl. (Note: The instructors didn't actually say, "go bake me some cookies, Nancy," but I could tell they were thinking it.)
Good writeup.

And that...was funny!!


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I've seen some girls brake pretty good, right after they passed me

Nothing like seeing a pony tail pulling away from you

Let the smart-ass remarks begin
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