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First Track Day :) Chuckwalla Valley Raceway

It was a blast! I now know why the track is so addicting :) Not having to worry about other motorists or random obstacles is very confidence inspiring.

This was my first track day and I think what made it so great was that I was lucky enough to be in a very small group - there were only about 7-10 others with me on the track at any given moment. I was in Group C.

The track surface was so smooth. My Dunlop Q2's felt so planted and stable at every corner. I freaked myself out the few times that I dragged my toes, but the tires never slipped once.

I was proud that I wore the tires down evenly - at the end of the day I hat about 2-3mm chicken strips on each side of the tire. On the street, I'd say that I'm much better with left turns, but at the track it seemed to be the opposite.

I'd highly recommend this track to anyone who can go.

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I'll post all the pics that I have so you can all scroll through them and criticize. I tried to get my body off the bike as much as I could. I dragged my right toe on three different occasions but COULDN'T get my kneed down.




















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Ahhh I love that track, been there 4 times already :)

Just lean it mang! Oh and pick your feet up!

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To use the track it for that day it was $175.
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Hey Diego, yeah I saw that you went there on Saturday. I tried to pick my feet up. I've read/learned a lot from reading the forums about proper foot placement on the pegs and proper body positioning, but just couldn't :( My friends said that I need to enter the turns at a higher speed, instead of being all careful.

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And that's it. I loved every minute of it!

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You shouldn't have dragged your toe before dragging your knee if your position is correct. Your upper body twisted to the opposite direction of where the bike was going. This position makes you difficult to knee down. Have to keep your upper body low and hang off more to lower the center of gravity. You may find awful when trying to do this so allow more time to get use to it or you will scare yourself.

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I may do fastrack this weekend. should be a blast not that many people signed up so definitely worth doing saturday to have more gap b/w riders.

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Right on, I am glad you had a good time and I hope to see you out on the track again. Well you said you wanted criticisim so here it is, you look crossed up, I think if you got your head over further and let your upper body follow you would be dragging knee in no time. Also when your foot is on the peg, the ball of your foot should be on the peg, and your foot should be as close to the bike as possible, try and keep everything tight. I hope that makes sense, also next time you go out look for me, I would be more than happy to do some laps with you. I was one of those guys in a green vest, blue, black, and white leathers, and a blue and black 07 cbr600rr with yellow number plates adorning the number 611. I hope to see you out again soon.

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Yeah, you seem "crossed up".

Lean your head down towards your hand more, and move your body over a bit. You seem very stiff from what I can tell in the pictures.

Looks like you had a blast though.

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Man, I've read so much and seen so much "crossed up" rider talk on here that I thought I was making an extreme effort to NOT do it. I wish the photographer had some shots from my rear so that you can all better assess it.
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You shouldn't have dragged your toe before dragging your knee if your position is correct. Your upper body twisted to the opposite direction of where the bike was going. This position makes you difficult to knee down. Have to keep your upper body low and hang off more to lower the center of gravity. You may find awful when trying to do this so allow more time to get use to it or you will scare yourself.
I'm pretty sure I saw you on the track and got passed up by you on a few occasions. On a couple of the laps (especially towards the end of the day, when everyone went home) I tried to follow the lines of one of the Control Riders there so that I could learn as much as I could.

In retrospect, I think the balls of my feet were on the peg, but they were NOT hugging the bike, as you recommended; I'll definitely try to correct that.

As for the "crossed over" body position, I consciously tried to make sure - and sure felt like I was doing alright - that I was not crossed over. Put my head as close to the imaginary mirrors as possible. But perhaps I need to make even more of an effort to exaggerate it.

I definitely had a blast :)
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Right on, I am glad you had a good time and I hope to see you out on the track again. Well you said you wanted criticisim so here it is, you look crossed up, I think if you got your head over further and let your upper body follow you would be dragging knee in no time. Also when your foot is on the peg, the ball of your foot should be on the peg, and your foot should be as close to the bike as possible, try and keep everything tight. I hope that makes sense, also next time you go out look for me, I would be more than happy to do some laps with you. I was one of those guys in a green vest, blue, black, and white leathers, and a blue and black 07 cbr600rr with yellow number plates adorning the number 611. I hope to see you out again soon.

After doing the track day, I've been doing canyon runs and trying to fix my form and am trying to find that sweet spot where I stay anchored to the bike while allowing me to hang my body and head out the furthest.

Looks like I might be going to Streets of Willow in July to work on it some more

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Yeah, you seem "crossed up".

Lean your head down towards your hand more, and move your body over a bit. You seem very stiff from what I can tell in the pictures.

Looks like you had a blast though.

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Oh, and thanks for the tips/criticism so far. I greatly appreciate it guys. Seriously, keep it coming. I want to get better, because it makes riding that much more fun and satisfying

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Oh my, I've never taken drugs before so I wouldn't know how it feels to be "addicted" to something like that. But I was just sitting in my seat and thinking about how I might go to Streets of Willow in July and I just got all jittery and hyper just from imagining taking turns and riding my bike :)

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I'm already preparing for my next trackday in two weeks and I just did a two day event last week. I'll need some new tires before the two day event in August. FML.

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Nice! I was there too, great weekend. Check out some of my good ones!

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Good to see that Brian, or maybe just one of his associates wasn't being a lazy cuss and actually working. I've been to a couple of events that he's photographed where I've had 10 pictures. And before anybody comes barging in to defend him, I can be critical. I've been doing motorsports photography for longer than he has been in business out here on the west coast. That and I harped on him pretty good when it happened, so its not like it would be news.

With that being said, JW, GRATS on finally getting out there on the track. Told you it would become an addiction.

Balls of your feet and kiss that damn mirror. You've got the classic "My body is hanging off, but my head ain't moving from the center of this tank" pose going on.
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Hey Vandurin,

Haha, yeah finally went :) As for the body positioning, after looking at the pictures over and over, I can definitely see where everyone is coming from. I made a conscious and physical effort to ensure that my head was off the bike, but I guess I need to do it some more. For my next track day I'm going to try and work on my positioning some more

As for the photos, I don't know about his previous work, but I'd like to think that we got so many photos because it was a VERY SMALL group. At most there were about 10 riders in Group C.

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Good to see that Brian, or maybe just one of his associates wasn't being a lazy cuss and actually working. I've been to a couple of events that he's photographed where I've had 10 pictures. And before anybody comes barging in to defend him, I can be critical. I've been doing motorsports photography for longer than he has been in business out here on the west coast. That and I harped on him pretty good when it happened, so its not like it would be news.

With that being said, JW, GRATS on finally getting out there on the track. Told you it would become an addiction.

Balls of your feet and kiss that damn mirror. You've got the classic "My body is hanging off, but my head ain't moving from the center of this tank" pose going on.

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Showoff! :-P JK. I saw you in the pit area a few times but didn't think it was anyone from the forum. It definitely was a fun day :) I'll look for you next time around and will say hello.

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good job james! congrats on poppin your track cherry.
the track is like sex mang...the more you do, the better you get! lmao






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Haha, thanks SLAPS. Yeah, I just signed up for Streets of Willow on July 10th

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After doing the track day, I've been doing canyon runs and trying to fix my form and am trying to find that sweet spot where I stay anchored to the bike while allowing me to hang my body and head out the furthest.
Please....be careful!! Talk like this friggin makes me nervous.

1. Get your feet more towards the end of the pegs.
2. Get up on the balls of your feet.
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Thanks for your concern Vandurin But don't worry, I'm VERY SAFE on the streets. In comparison to my friends, I'm one of the slower riders and I'm okay with that.

I didn't mean that I was going to force it. What I meant was that I'd concentrate more on getting the right form, opposed to just riding.

As for being on the balls of my feet and, I really always am. My problem is that I cannot find the right placement for my inner thighs - where I will feel planted to the bike and not like I'm going to fall off of it.

In regards to the feet being "more towards the end of the pegs" do you mean away from the frame? I've been told by others to keep it as close to the bike as possible..

Basically, the pegs are pretty much between/near my toes and the beefy/meaty portion of my feet. That right?

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2. Get up on the balls of your feet.

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+1 for most of the comments on this page thus far. Especially what punkasfcuk said, you need to drop your head and let your upper body follow. Also, relax your inside elbow and try to drop it down. I saw you out that day as well (since there were only a few riders in the C group). Regarding what you friends said...you should take the turns at your own pace so far. Learn technique and gain confidence and the speed will follow...
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Awww schucks, I guess I should have had a banner or sticker showing 600rr.net. Maybe then you guys would have said hello :-P

Thanks Nixinus, I'm definitely taking in as much advice as I can. As for riding at my own pace, I've been doing that since day one and I don't really care what other "faster" riders think. I just LOVE riding my motorcycle; and I plan on prolonging how long I can enjoy that.

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+1 for most of the comments on this page thus far. Especially what punkasfcuk said, you need to drop your head and let your upper body follow. Also, relax your inside elbow and try to drop it down. I saw you out that day as well (since there were only a few riders in the C group). Regarding what you friends said...you should take the turns at your own pace so far. Learn technique and gain confidence and the speed will follow...

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