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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-27-2010, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
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Trackday vs riding school

So here's my dilema, I want to become a faster rider. Who doesn't? I don't have tons of money. Who doesn't?

To get a trackday, I'm looking at a little under $300 for a trackday after joining an organization and paying the track fee. I can also do cornerspeed or California Super Bike School for a little over $400. Is it worth it to just go to a school instead of a beginner trackday?

Bottom line/cliff notes: Is the instruction given at a riding school worth the extra ~$100?

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IMO, I did a few trackdays through www.trackdaz.com and rode in the novice "C" group. They were helpful and answered a lot of my questions, but since they are not an "instructional school," they can offer advice, but cannot "teach" you how to ride. They will have you follow their lines and watch you as you take the corners. It was fun!

Then I attended California Superbike School and everything changed. They help me realize how bad I was riding and all of the common mistakes new riders typically make (survival reactions). The lean bike and the braking bike show really open your eyes. By then end of the class, I was more confident and more importantly, smoother, on the track. Next up is new racer school, racer's license, then racing!!!

Also, its corny, but buy or watch Keith Code's DVD "A Twist Of The Wrist II." It has a lot of info that will definitely help. The book is a great companion to the DVD. Consider it a racer's bible.
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I have "the cornering bible" on my computer, and have watched it quite a few times. I feel I have the information, just putting down in a safe manner. I can ride faster and more aggressive than I do on the street, but speed limits usually hold me back. We've been riding and I see a speed limit sign and think "this ticket would suck" and slow down.

So would you recommend doing a trackday or school?

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Do a trackday first. This way you will learn how things work at the track and get over those first trackday jitters. My first time on the track I did CLASS school but didn't learn as much as I could have because I was overwhelmed. If you are going to VIR then check out NESBA. The control riders are really good about helping people who ask. Cornerspeed is a good school to take and is worth the money. I took it after a few trackdays and learned a lot. I haven't done California Superbike School but a lot of my friends have. Most of them liked it.

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your looking at 300 for the weekend, or one day? thats a lot for one day, I am not sure how tracks days are up there, but that seems expensive.

for me the choice to just do track days for now as pretty easy since track days here are pretty cheap,

although I really want to play around on the "slide" bike Keith code has.

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I recommend doing a trackday first also, that way you can get used to the track and how things work. Riding school or Race schools can get pricey esp if you're trying to get a race license. The schools are worth it, but maybe something for down the road maybe.

In FL you can easily do single trackdays for around $150 at JenningsGP (not including tires, equipment etc tho). And there's a couple of organizations that even offer free instruction like Gottrack.net and FSB (in my sig)

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Do a couple of trackdays and you will find out what your limits are and what is keeping you from getting faster.

Then, you at least have an idea of what you will want to work on when you do finally sign up for a school.

I did STAR with Jason Pridmore a couple of years ago when I had my SV650. I was already pretty quick, after a 2 day school, I was torching people I regularly attended trackdays with.

Then..I went and got this RR and I'm slooowww.....and learning how to ride again. Done a handful of trackays, know what I need to work on, and will probably be looking to do another STAR school later on this year.
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I would be doing it at VIR. My $300 figure is for the trackday, and joining NESBA and prepping my bike. I just have to find a suit before I do any of the two. I know I'm not that fast, hell I still have a sliver of a chicken strip left. That being said, I don't feel comfortable carrying that amount of lean and speed on the street. I know many people will ride fast enough to shred the rubber on the tires, but just me, I don't want to be that fast on the street.

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trackday first. NESBA is great with new riders too, and depending on group size, you can get some real good instruction!
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Too bad you're on the east coast, TrackTactics offers a track school incorporated into the normal track day for like $65 bucks over here in Cali, lol!

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Trackaddix is who i did my first day with also. They have (or at least had, they are under new ownership since I did mine and I havent had the opportunity to use them since) a good program
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We're not near you, but we walk the line between a school and a trackday.

We offer tons of instruction... but you're not required to sit in the classroom, etc. (unless it's your first time, then it is required for the morning).

Riding schools can be great and very effective... while others fall short or offer little more than a trackday.

Do your homework and you should be able to find something suitable.

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Speaking as someone who has done a lot of trackdays and had very little instruction, I would probably opt for the school.

I've read the books and had a small amount of instruction on the track, but I think a really solid school like Stars or CA Superbike would be extremely beneficial.
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i would hit the track....\
you will always find someone who will help you and and get a pinter or two
they are often as onto it as some of the instructors at some of the schools, but with less of the i am god because i am an instructor here.. thing , you can get some really great help just by opening you eyes and ears , watching and listening , learn from others mistakes at a track day , see where they are going wrong and others are going right!


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If you're ever in Texas go to a www.RIdeSmart.info track day school
As little as $100 (depending on which track they're riding) you get instruction all day in 2 of the 3 rider skill levels
The level 3 is $50 more for the Ty Howard Race School - still a great bargin !

If your track day org has a beginners class or level with instructors helping you, go do it !
You will learn a lot & get valuable track time
If you like it (who doesn't?) , you can go to a track school next time

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