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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-14-2011, 01:19 AM Thread Starter
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hello everybody i was having a conversation with a few riding buddies of mine and i was wondering how soon is to soon to go to a riding school for a new rider? a good friend of mines brother wants to go to a riding school and hes only been riding for a 2-3months do you think that its to soon? oh one last thing he has gone through his msf course.
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I'll take a stab here.

It ain't the age, it's the miles...
How much does this guy ride? In my first 2 -3 months I put on something like 4 or 5 thousand miles which is more than a lot of guys do in a year. If he's a weekend rider and has 400 miles then he hasn't even dipped his toe in the water yet.

Is he an addict yet...
What kind of riding has he been doing and how "into" the art of riding is he? Some guys just hop on the bike and sort of feel their way through the learning process through trial and error without ever really making an effort to learn the fine points. If he's serious though he's probably been doing some reading, maybe watching some videos on riding techniques, that kind of thing. The more he's serious about it the more ready he will be.

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I'm of the mind that learning sooner is better than learning later but not everyone thinks that way. If the guy can handle his bike, understands it, and most importantly RESPECTS it then I would say go for it but make sure the tells the school the exact situation so they know how to handle him. Of course I have no idea if the guy is ready so this is just my generic 2 cents worth of opinion.

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The MSF use to recommend what use to be called the ERC (Experienced RiderCourse) after 6 months or 3,000 miles. Lee Parks Total Control Advance Riding Clinic also recommends 3,000 miles while suggesting " You must be comfortable with the basic operation of your motorcycle including; up and down shifting, controlling the throttle, braking and turning at normal street riding speeds. " Texas's RideSmart Trackday/CRMA school also recommends similar mileage/time requirements.

http://www.totalcontroltraining.net/HTML/FAQ.html

http://www.ridesmart.info/index.php?page=school.level1

While I use to be an MSF instructor, I never agreed with this. 3,000 miles/6 months is so vague and blindly covers a riding populous. I've had former students call going to the gas station a RIDE!?!

From that point forward I've asked students and people I meet what kind of riding they do or rides they have been on. This gives me an idea of their riding abilities and allows me to make a safe decision when planning rides. Some people are absolutely fearful of riding in the rain. Obviously you wouldn't suggest a ride to a location with a high probability for rain in the forecast when they accompany you. Likewise you wouldn't suggest a technical ride that involves tight and twisty corners varying in degrees to someone whom only rides on the freeway or highway, let alone city streets.

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You must be comfortable with the basic operation of your motorcycle including; up and down shifting, controlling the throttle, braking and turning at normal street riding speeds. " Whether that takes your friends brother 3 months, 6 months or 3 - 5,000 miles to develop is when I would recommend attending a more advance riding school or clinic. If the basics don't yet feel natural or comfortable, you are not going to be as receptive towards learning more advance techniques.

Hope my advice helps, good luck.

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I say go for it! He won't have bad habits yet and the instructors will get a blank canvas to work with. Just tell him to listen and learn, and he doesn't have to prove anything. You don't have to go fast to be fast. I would have gotten passed by a moped my first track day
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He should definitley go.
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