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First Track Day Done! Next step....

Wat's going on everyone? So this AM I finished my first track day at NJMP thunder and im totally hooked!!! Had an amazing time and cant wait till the next time I can get back out there. In the mean time i will continue compiling my gear. Heres the ques:

Wat should I get next, Leathers or track fairings?

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My local track allows 2pc suits that zip together.

I am thinking of going that route so I can wear the same gear on the street till I can get a dedicated track suit.
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Yeah I slept on it and im def going with u guys suggestion. Going for leathers first. I have an RST gmx motion jacket so im considering finishing off the 2 piece though id prefer a 1 piece.

Sz i guess is somewhere between 48-50euro (according to dainese sz chart)

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I have a 2 piece as well. A*s RC1 and SMK jackets, and their track pants. I love having a 2 piece cause it gives me options. My RC-1 is a 46 and the SMK is a 44 so i can change jackets according to conditions and i can also use only the jackets for quick rides and also it is nice cause i cant trake the jacket off and be more comfortable while waiting for other groups.

The versatility is just unmatched. People "say" that the zippers fail and the 2 pieces come apart and that all 2 pieces are junk, but not one person can show me an instance where a two piece that was properly zipped together ripped the zipper apart in a crash.


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Welcome to the addiction! I almost went to that trackday, the weather really got nice at the last minute. How did you like Absolute? Good group of people over there. Check the Team Promotion website message boards, there is a size 44 suit over there for $100, looks brand new. http://shopphilly.com/teampromotion/...pic.php?t=8715

Having your own equipment makes things a lot nicer, no need to rely on renting (or them not having your size cuz someone else got there first).

then you will start modding up your bike ( or get a dedicated track bike ), you will want a quickshifter, fuel module, exhaust, lap timer, slipper clutch, brembo, carrozerria wheels), next thing you know you will be almost bankrupt, your credit cards maxed, your boss furious as you have asked for raises every week.

Then you sell all your shite on ebay to raise cash, wife/girlfriend gets furious, put the house on the market to raise cash for a toy hauler (your wife / girlfriend doesn't understand you can actually live in them when your not doing track days, duh...). She leaves you anyway but you don't care cuz you have a double header that weekend...

And on and on it goes... does this sound like a track day guy, or heroin addict? You make the call...

Let me know when you are going out to NJMP again, I'm still in white myself and I can follow you around and shoot some video if you like.
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Welcome to the addiction! I almost went to that trackday, the weather really got nice at the last minute. How did you like Absolute? Good group of people over there. Check the Team Promotion website message boards, there is a size 44 suit over there for $100, looks brand new. http://shopphilly.com/teampromotion/...pic.php?t=8715

Having your own equipment makes things a lot nicer, no need to rely on renting (or them not having your size cuz someone else got there first).

then you will start modding up your bike ( or get a dedicated track bike ), you will want a quickshifter, fuel module, exhaust, lap timer, slipper clutch, brembo, carrozerria wheels), next thing you know you will be almost bankrupt, your credit cards maxed, your boss furious as you have asked for raises every week.

Then you sell all your shite on ebay to raise cash, wife/girlfriend gets furious, put the house on the market to raise cash for a toy hauler (your wife / girlfriend doesn't understand you can actually live in them when your not doing track days, duh...). She leaves you anyway but you don't care cuz you have a double header that weekend...

And on and on it goes... does this sound like a track day guy, or heroin addict? You make the call...

Let me know when you are going out to NJMP again, I'm still in white myself and I can follow you around and shoot some video if you like.
The addiction is crazy!!! Im here already shaking and stuff from withdrawal, lol. I thought absolute was awesome. Well run day, group sizes were a comfortable sz, and all their crew was super cool. Ill def be heading to njmp soon, prob may. Ill def let u know and we can put a cpl runs in together.

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I tried to be ready to go down today, but i didnt get the track bike finished in time, would rather it be safe than thrown together to make the date.

I will definately be going 4/10 with TPM as well, i will be in garages 111 and 112 under the vip suites. Aboclute and TPM are both great orgs, i have ridden with both , i like TPMs 3 group format a little better than Absolutes 4 group format, but the 4 group format is a LOT better for n00bs cause they have the slow novice group where people are not passing you at double your speed, six feet away or not that is still a little scary.

I will probably start a thread soon to see who will be going , if there is not one up already.


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Skip those mods. Your mods should be trackfarings and save up on tires and seat time.

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Skip those mods. Your mods should be trackfarings and save up on tires and seat time.
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Tires and plastics should be on top of your list once you get leathers. My track instructors told me your best insurance at the track is good tires, your fallback are trackplastics.

And in my opinion, experience and plenty of seat time is worth more than all those mods. I can run with the literbike guys with absolutely no mods on my 600...

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Seriously..if you REALLY feel the need to spend money on the bike other than seat time, get your suspension done. Those mods will be worthless without them and money much better spent.

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Aboclute and TPM are both great orgs
I've done one TPM trackday at Monticello last year. I thought they were good but not great. I dunno but I guess I got spoiled at Tonystrackdays. If you've never done a day with them, give them a shot. Might be a little expensive, but I got more track time, learning, and more help from riders/instructors.

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Seriously..if you REALLY feel the need to spend money on the bike other than seat time, get your suspension done. Those mods will be worthless without them and money much better spent.
Get your bike set up for your weight before you hit up your next trackday. It shouldn't be more than like 40 bucks. I'm not talking about ohlins or racetech stuff. Just the simple set up will do for now.


IMO this should be your priority list before your next trackday:

1. Leathers - 1pc or 2pc doesn't matter whatever fits, and is in your budget...
2. Suspension - set up for your weight
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4. Maintenance - Go over the bike and make sure everything is good (chain, oil change, brake pads, fluids, controls, etc.)
4. Read up - On any and everything track related, especially Body position, throttle control, and finding the right line.


I think that's enough for now....

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Get your bike set up for your weight before you hit up your next trackday. It shouldn't be more than like 40 bucks. I'm not talking about ohlins or racetech stuff. Just the simple set up will do for now.


IMO this should be your priority list before your next trackday:

1. Leathers - 1pc or 2pc doesn't matter whatever fits, and is in your budget...
2. Suspension - set up for your weight
3. Tires - decent tread life left
4. Maintenance - Go over the bike and make sure everything is good (chain, oil change, brake pads, fluids, controls, etc.)
4. Read up - On any and everything track related, especially Body position, throttle control, and finding the right line.


I think that's enough for now....[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the advice guys. In my head right now thats how i have it planned out. Leathers, suspension to be done at next track day, track fairings, tires, etc. The thing i want most and will prob benefit most from is just more seat time. There is so much to learn and go over and i feel like the only way to get it all down is more time on the track.

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Glad your into the addiction, just get the bike suspension set up and the right gear. Sent ya a PM as well

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You realize I was being sarcastic right? You're right, all you need is a good running bike and track time. For me though, half the fun was all the mods, but those were definitely "wants", not "needs". So much cool stuff you can do to a track bike..., but they are pretty fantastic all stock too
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The addiction is crazy!!! Im here already shaking and stuff from withdrawal, lol. I thought absolute was awesome. Well run day, group sizes were a comfortable sz, and all their crew was super cool. Ill def be heading to njmp soon, prob may. Ill def let u know and we can put a cpl runs in together.
Cool, looking forward to riding with you! In my opinion, this sport is about the funnest thing out there you can do, my only regret is it took me 34 years to even find out about it.
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Cool, looking forward to riding with you! In my opinion, this sport is about the funnest thing out there you can do, my only regret is it took me 34 years to even find out about it.
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You realize I was being sarcastic right? You're right, all you need is a good running bike and track time. For me though, half the fun was all the mods, but those were definitely "wants", not "needs". So much cool stuff you can do to a track bike..., but they are pretty fantastic all stock too
wasnt even directing that to you man. Just my advice to the op. What one does to his/her bike is his prerogative. If someone wants to stretch out and chrome the swing arm then more power to him.

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Ah no worries flip, never understood the attraction to chrome and stretch either, but to each his own I guess.

Hey bk, there is a guy at all TPM events, Metric Mike, who is the onsite suspension guru. He's very good. I'm pretty sure if you go full throttle with them, you get one suspension service free. He will work with you throughout the day tweaking your stock set up.

I'm no expert by any means, but from my research, the stock rr suspension is pretty dam good. I had my stock shock revalved, but my forks needed nothing except an upgraded shim stack, (again, completely optional, but it was a cheap fix for me). The valves and springs in the forks are good until you get really fast. The only issue with the stock shock is no ride height adjustability, but it's not a deal breaker. I went with a 190 tire to start this year to see if I like it (raises rear slightly), mixed reviews on that choice from the experts (Dave Moss said good idea, Metric Mike didn't like it).

Start with a metric mike suspension tune ($50 or less), and see how it goes for you. It's money well spent. I think absolute has a suspension guy too, but can't vouch as I don't know who it is, I'm sure he's good as well though.
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Thanks for the advice capt, next track day for sure, whether its with TPM or absolute, suspension is getting done!

PS I think absolute has this guy Mark from MARKBUILT, heard he was also very good

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Yes Absolute uses MarkbiltRacing. He is great with suspension. He sponsors a guy that I work with. I am not sure what he charges for a suspension setup but i know his prices are a little higher than MetricMikes.

But Markbilt Racing is about 2 minutes from NJMP where Metric Mike is a bit farther away.


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Update: 3 track days down, planning my fourth. Went ahead and bought a dainese laguna seca 1 piece, supper comfy and pretty well ventilated. basic suspension set up done by mark built, but I need another day to fine tune it. Stock tires have already taken quite the beating. Looking at track plastics and some new rubber next.

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IMO you've only done a few trackdays and even after you get to upper intermediate pace, dual compound tires will work just fine. Michelin 2ct's, Dunlop Q2's, Metzler M5's, Bridgestone Bt-016, Pirelli Rosso corsa/Dragon's, etc.

I'll be at NJMP on the 18th and 19th with Tonystrackdays stop by if you're there. Also, if you can get a chance to ride NHMS either this year or next, do it. IMO it's a lot more technical than Jersey and practically forces you to become a better rider. I'll be at NHMS at the end of Sept (27/28th).

Last thing, nice suit!

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