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post #1 of 53 (permalink) Old 09-18-2005, 01:50 AM
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Finally!!!.....MOTEGI***SPOILER****

I wanted Rossi to crash out so badly...but not at the expense of hurting himself or anyone else; which no one got hurt except for Melandri. Hope he hasn't broken his ankle.

Sometimes I can't help but think Rossi's passings are a bit too aggressive, but I guess that's racing.

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post #2 of 53 (permalink) Old 09-18-2005, 10:25 AM
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nem - hook me up with the vid :)
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just a guess but did rossi win? (i didn't get to watch it obviously)
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nem - hook me up with the vid :)

+1!

yeah, title says spoiler...what happened and who won?

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The URL for the video is different and won't work unless you're a paying member.
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The URL for the video is different and won't work unless you're a paying member.
How big is the file? I could probably host it.
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+1!

yeah, title says spoiler...what happened and who won?
Rossi ran it deep into a right-hander and into the back of Melandri as he was turning in. Rossi again too hot for his own good and now he may have hurt someone else because of it.

Capirossi passed Biaggi after Biaggi made a mistake and Capirossi pulled away for the win. Tamada took a distant 3rd.



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How big is the file? I could probably host it.
It's not the size that's the problem but the URL itself. It's got some kinda secure address in it.
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so capriossi won? thats underheard of that someone besides won..lol
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Yeah, he won. I knew he was going to win against Biaggi. Every time those two go head to head Capirossi always comes out on top.
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Protest placed on Rossi****MOTEGI SPOILER******

Just saw this at motogpdotcom

In one of the interview headline it reads:

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Gauloises Yamaha director Davide Brivio on the protest placed against Rossi.
Sounds like Honda Telefonica filed a complaint against Rossi--first with Sete, and now with Melandri.

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It was ruled unfounded and thrown out. Screw Team Honda, they B&M about everything in every aspect of racing. Even in AMA when Yamaha won the other day Honda tried to say they were running illegal specs when officials couldnt find anything. Rossi is just flat out good.
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Rossi read Milandri wrong, and caused the crash, but not intentionally or recklessly IMO. Sucks for Rossi because had he finished in 3rd or 4th, he would have had the championship wrapped up.

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But did this not hapen with Hopkins last year and the hit him pretty good...it's just because it is Rossi nothing will happen.... but i agree it was just a racing incident.

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this is the second time Rossi has bumped someone at a corner, while coming in from the rear. I think his explanation is BS. We have yet to hear Melandri's side of the story.. Rossi is losing his "friends" left and right. Forsy Biaggi, then Giberbneu and now probably Melandri. i think he should be banned from the next 3 races, just to make the championship more interesting.
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banned?

thats racing.. imo nothing but a mistake.well not the gibernau incident but this one was a simple mistake. thats pretty lame of honda.. crybabies
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just one of them racing deals. sure it sucks, sure he's losing friends but stuff happens out there. and how is melandri gonna say any better about what rossi was doing that rossi can?

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put your self in Melandri's seat (just imagine if you can) you don't see anything and all of a sudden, just as you start turning in bang! you are taken out by a rider coming in from behind, land on your a$$ with a deep flesh wound. all of this affecting your chances to pace 2nd in the championship standings. Rossi's claim about taking an inside line in BS, as he was right beside Melandri during corner entry.
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I'll host as well if I can get a copy of the vid
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Melandri takes a different line than Rossi for that corner. Melandri goes wide then cuts in, Rossi just though that Melandri accidently went wide, so he went for the pass, and hence the collision. I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional, why would he risk his campionship title just to make a risky pass to be in 3rd place? Even if he finish the race 4th he would still be garanteed the championship title. I just hope Melandri will be able to race @ Sepang!
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this is the second time Rossi has bumped someone at a corner, while coming in from the rear. I think his explanation is BS. We have yet to hear Melandri's side of the story.. Rossi is losing his "friends" left and right. Forsy Biaggi, then Giberbneu and now probably Melandri. i think he should be banned from the next 3 races, just to make the championship more interesting.
Losing friends lft & rt?...He was never really friends w/ Biaggi at all. Always rivals, and Biaggi seems like he has more respect for Rossi now than before cuz he has accepted the fact that Rossi just just BETTER!

Gibernau's a good rider and is a nice guy...but he's still a bumb and that's not really a loss of a friendship!

And In Melandri's case...**** happens! It's a prt of racing and a part of life! I'm almost positive that Melandri will understand and accept that it was unintentional and will still be good friends w/ Rossi! Plus, they're fellow italians. If Rossi didn't care, then he wouldn't have ran to Melandri's aid when he was laying on the run-off, in pain!


And even if they were to ban Rossi for 3 races, even though imo that wouldn't be right in the first place, it wouldn't matter...Rossi has the title on LOCK!

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I watched it happen and I heard what Rossi said right after the crash in the interview. He said that he got into the corner too hot. Rossi made a mistake and got into the corner too hot and took another rider out. I don't think it was intentional at all because Rossi immediantly through up his hands after the crash and then didn't want to leave Melandri just laying there. The corner workers were telling him to get off the track and he wouldn't go.

The problem I see with this crash is that Rossi goes into corner too hot with someone in FRONT of him. That someone happens to be fighting for race positon as well as championship pionts position. Even if Rossi made a clean pass and finished 3rd it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the championship. Maybe he thought he was starting his run to the front as he always does. But that was Capirossi's day and no one was going to deny him victory.


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well put newredrider. wherher or not it was intentional is not the issue. I don't think any rider wants to intentionally crash his million $ baby into another. its about making mistakes or taking risks that affect other riders. in this case it was unecessary. Rossi has admited that he makes winning lot easier than it really is. After qualifying 11th, moving upto 4th place was pretty impressive. And there was still half the race left. IMHO he was trying too hard and still no catching up with the lead pack.

My request for the 3 race ban for Rossi was just a joke. looking at the point standings, the championships could be over in the next race. It would be more interesting if it went on a little longer.
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Yeah, I was stoked... I was on top of the paddock, however, so I couldn't see the crash from where I was standing.. I saw the video of it when I headed back down to the Suzuki pit... John did pretty well posting 5th.. And I was stoked to watch Biaggi lead for a bit and take second...

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I think that instead of finding faults where they don't exist (it was a race incident), i think that honda should focus on building a wining bike or finding a wining pilot. Gibernau has just behaved like a crybaby since the begining of the season.


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Regardless of intension, the factory will always fight controvertial wins, they will stand behind their factory guys. Remember Yamaha and Honda hate each other more than Sete, Girb, Giambi hate Rossi. Rossi's riding style is agressive, probably the most agressive in the circuit, which is the main reason he is on top, he takes more risks but soon some one will do the same to him if they dont lynch him 1st. Now about the comment that the RC211V is not a winning bike, i do not agree, its probably the best bike out there, it dominates in topspeed, in the turns, it just doesnt have risk taker driver to back it up.
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Definitely Rossi's error, but at least he's making the effort to race, not like F1 in the past where teams organised a "non-race" to make sure the lead driver gets the points. I think he shows good spirit trying to win every race and not just cruising into the championship.
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I think that instead of finding faults where they don't exist (it was a race incident), i think that honda should focus on building a wining bike or finding a wining pilot. Gibernau has just behaved like a crybaby since the begining of the season.
Honda has the fastest bike in GP last I checked. The M1 is right there with it. Rossi won with honda non stop and now hes doing it with Yamaha. He is just good. As far as the incident why is this even a conversation? Rossi said he apologized and that is it. It was a mistake but it happens. That is RACING. If I got hit by Rossi when I know I changed lines I would say to myself "Well crap, I got in the way of the fastest motorcycle racer in the world" Rossi would never intentionally risk his championship like that. Who in their right mind would even think Rossi did this to take him out? Rossi still has the championship under wraps no matter what. Look at the points. Noone can touch him. I just want to see Texas Boy Edwards take second in the points and Ill be happy.
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Regardless of intension, the factory will always fight controvertial wins, they will stand behind their factory guys. Remember Yamaha and Honda hate each other more than Sete, Girb, Giambi hate Rossi. Rossi's riding style is agressive, probably the most agressive in the circuit, which is the main reason he is on top, he takes more risks but soon some one will do the same to him if they dont lynch him 1st. Now about the comment that the RC211V is not a winning bike, i do not agree, its probably the best bike out there, it dominates in topspeed, in the turns, it just doesnt have risk taker driver to back it up.
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