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Anyone know if local hardware stores like Home Depot or Lowes carries Safety Wire Pliers? I know you can order them online but I wanted to try to get some before the weekend.
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you might get lucky here in FL they do not carry them call the stores man before you waste your time and gas just my 0.02 cents good luck



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Probably not in a home center but surely there are some bike shops near by that would.

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Yeah, right :) You're lucky if a bike shop carries them...
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yeah i know you said in a store. but most bikes shops don't carry Chit

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yea sears has them... like 99 for the kit.. to much in my book
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you don't absolutely need the pliers, you can twist the wire on with your hands. Pliers is just faster thats all ;-)

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you don't absolutely need the pliers, you can twist the wire on with your hands. Pliers is just faster thats all ;-)
yeah and i don't need a chick for sex but it sure as hell makes it more enjoyable

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I would think you would need pliers... the lock wire I use is stiff as hell.... and it would be hard on your fingers and wouldnt get the correct twists in the wire... Put hey more power to you!! If you just do it with your hands... lol
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yeah and i don't need a chick for sex but it sure as hell makes it more enjoyable
I was thinking along the same lines LOL. I can just picture, 5 minutes before the race and you're there trying to grab the wire with pliers and twist it... yeah, that won't be frustrating or anything. :)
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Yeah, right :) You're lucky if a bike shop carries them...
A dealer on the west side of town has them and I think Indy Superbikes has them. (5 min from the house :) ) I would think SoCal would have shops that have them. Maybe not??

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Thanks for all the info and links guys. That's wierd, I didn't get any notifications that people posted to this thread.

Anyways, I'll call around for local shops and if no one has it, I'll order it online. I just found some on ebay too so I'll be contacting sellers to see if I can pick it up before the weekend.

All the help is much appreciated.
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I just picked up a set of safety wire pliers from ebay and it didn't come with instructions on how to use them. Anyone have some info and pics on how to use it? I got these.



I tried searching for instructions on the internet but couldn't find any. Thanks for anyone's input.
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Practice practice practice. I just got some off ebay as well, and it still seems like a pain in the ars even with the pliers. One of the guys at Jennings recommended using a combination of R-clips and saftey wire for easy install and removal. I just need to get a jig for the bolts to make a nice straight hole that the clips will go thru. In the wera rulebook there are a few diagrams that may help.


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I just picked up a set of safety wire pliers from ebay and it didn't come with instructions on how to use them. Anyone have some info and pics on how to use it? I got these.



I tried searching for instructions on the internet but couldn't find any. Thanks for anyone's input.
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Thanks gbord. yeah, I need to figure out how I'm going to drill those holes too. I've read about putting the bolts into a vice grip but I don't have or have access to a shop. I wonder if I can just drill the bolts while attached on the bike...I can imagine that would be difficult for certain angles.

Are these the R-clips? http://www.bare-co.com/files/general/g20usa.htm

You don't happen to have a picture of how that guy from Jennings wired his do you? I'll try to figure out the pliers but just looking at them right now I don't see how the wire attaches to the middle portion for twisting.
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I see, I just found this: http://www.rc51.org/wire1.htm . I assume you just grab the wire with the safety wire plier and twist. The middle mechanism on the plier just gives a lock and a base to twist the wire from the middle. If that's the case, why wouldn't just needle nose pliers with a strong grip do the job?
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Sorry, no pictures. I drilled several holes with the bolts on my bike, but could not get them straight thru. The trick with the pliers is to lock them while pinching the wires and then just pull the knob in the middle. The pliers themselves then spin around and twist the wires.
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Perfect, thanks again for the tips.
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yeah and i don't need a chick for sex but it sure as hell makes it more enjoyable

uh...I think you didn't get what I was trying to communicate. He was hoping to get the pliers before his event to wire it, just trying to tell the guy that he could still wire his bolts by hand worst case if he can't find any pliers. Wasn't suggesting that it's more convenient to use your hands....seesh!

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I know it's a kart shop, but the pliars and wire still apply:

http://www.cometkartsales.com/store/tools/safety.htm
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great, thanks selector. I was able to find some good deals off of ebay too.
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So, I was wondering about those R-clips. Seems like you would still need to secure the open end? A couple wraps with safety wire would do the trick. I came across this on ebay, not R-clips but maybe would work better. Not sure if all racing orgs. would approve??

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I'll have to ask a race organization about that one. If anyone finds out, please post it.
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So did u get to be an expert now on safety-wiring yet, Ryan?
I got my pliers from an avionics shop and the wire from cycleparts in gardengrove. I learnt how to do it from James at cyclemall. Don't really need those clips, just get the .032 gauge wires and also get the pliers with 'auto-return', makes it a breeze. Just lock it in and pull.
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So did u get to be an expert now on safety-wiring yet, Ryan?
I got my pliers from an avionics shop and the wire from cycleparts in gardengrove. I learnt how to do it from James at cyclemall. Don't really need those clips, just get the .032 gauge wires and also get the pliers with 'auto-return', makes it a breeze. Just lock it in and pull.
Thanks for the info Jotaro. I was going to start this about a month ago but I ended up not needing it for the track day but will have to get started some time mid December to prep for 2006 race season. If I have any questions I'll be sure to ask you, thanks.
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These guys have some good pliers heap, and if you have money, they have the really nice Milbar's. Since they are aviation they can get them to you overnight. I would also really recommend a pair of duck bill pliers, they really help making the final twist and bending the pig-tail so you dont cut yourself. They are cheap at Sears and function much better than needle nose while safety wiring.

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Here is the direc link.

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