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How to Safety Wire Your Bike : Guide and Write Up

http://www.rc51.org/wire1.htm

Hey everyone,
I just found this article/guide on the web and thought it would be a great resource for new racers and track day enthusiasts looking to safety wire the bolts on their bike. Hope you find it helpful.


tiltedworld also found another good article here: http://www.whizwheels.com/Tips/safetywiring.html


Another great article with pictures:
http://www.emra.ca/Tech%20Tips/Tech%20Tips.htm

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good find ... nice lil track day info for some new ones
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and another write up

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thanks for posting the links guys. Nothing I need to do anytime soon but its cool to check out.

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wow that's helpful stuff :icon_salu:
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might be a stupid question but maybe its because ive never raced before. Is this to keep everything from flying off into a million pieces if you crash? Or to keep everything secure and sturdy?
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might be a stupid question but maybe its because ive never raced before. Is this to keep everything from flying off into a million pieces if you crash? Or to keep everything secure and sturdy?
I think primarily, its to avoid debris on the track in the event of a crash, or fluids leaking out during riding due to oil/water/other bolts coming loose.. as an added advantage, its a visual verification of torque specs, and the peace of mind of knowing bolts cant back out..

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Awesome, I'm sure this will help first-timers. And as chkaotic noted, it's so the bolts don't back out, fluid won't leak, and confidence that your bike is secure so you can concentrate on passing and getting to the front :)
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anyone do this to their streetbikes?
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Hey shiftn3rdon1,

Just my 2 cents but in general if you're riding on the street, the vibration and potential of bolts backing out is less than someone that rides or races at the track at speeds ranging from 60 - 150mph consistently.

But, of course, it still is possible for a bolt to back out from street riding so that extra sense of security of safety wiring your bolts probably will make you feel better when you ride. It is a little bit of work to do but I would say safety wire the bolts you constantly take on and off the most. For racers, they constantly have to take off the wheels, brakes, and oil filter so these would make sense for sure to have those safety wired.

If I did it to my street bike, I would do oil filter, wheels and brake bolts too.
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Red face Examples of why do it.

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Awesome, I'm sure this will help first-timers. And as chkaotic noted, it's so the bolts don't back out, fluid won't leak, and confidence that your bike is secure so you can concentrate on passing and getting to the front :)
Hey predikt

heres a thread started by my brother (tonyshowtime) of all people, This is how not to do it, and this is why you do it.

https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=40490

This was my first Manx GP, yes although i have been racing for a couple of years, this was my First. Live and Learn!!!!!!! Dropped from 9th to 21st because of it.

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airtimebill,
Thank you very much for posting that. I was debating if I was going to wire the last rear exhaust mount because I got lazy. I'm going to wire that tonight! haha, that must have been weird to hear a clunk at the back of your bike and suddenly you lost power (or gained power?)
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It bacame so loud it was untrue. I was waddling along doing only about 145mph, then out of no where she went from a nice racing purr to a unbearable roar. Ekkkkkkk.

like i said lesson learned the hard way. Shame it happened in the race and not practice, where it wouldnt of mattered. Still thats racing.............

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.....is it REQUIRED to do this to your bike?

If so...FVCK ME, I've got a lot of work ahead. Will they let me slide if I don't do this?
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check with your trackday, rc211v. i read that you're doing your first track day so i dont think you need to worry about it. i'm doing my 1st trackday on 9/25 at Buttonwillow and I'm not going to safety wire my bike. Hell i'm not going to even think about trying this until the dead of winter, which in southern california is when it rains a lot around jan-march.

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.....is it REQUIRED to do this to your bike?

If so...FVCK ME, I've got a lot of work ahead. Will they let me slide if I don't do this?
RC2llV, it's required if you're going to race. Check with the race organization's rule book that you plan to race with.

If you're doing trackdays, check the trackday organization if they require you to safety wire. Majority, if not all, of the trackday organizations I have ran with did not require safety wire but had other requirements such as replacing coolant with Water Wetter and taping up or removing headlights and mirrors.
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Great thread. Wish I would have found it a long time ago so there would be several people who are much less annoyed with me now after my millions of safety wiring questions. Have to Fav those links.
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I was just looking into some track days and was wondering why they make you tape up or disconnect your speedo?
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I was just looking into some track days and was wondering why they make you tape up or disconnect your speedo?
First thing is that it is a distraction from looking where you should be looking, at the track.
Second thing is that no speedo is worth about a second a lap. If you want to know how fast you are going, look at it later by using one of those GPS mapping gizmos. If you don't think that info is worth $800 then you don't really need to know. Rent or buy a lap timer and you will get info that you can use and not be distracted.
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good write up, very helpful thanx
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thanks, i was looking for just this to get my bike track ready. I plan on doing a race school when it warms up and wanted to get an idea of what needs to be done

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Great thread!

I just wanted to add, that besides vibration causing things to come loose, people forget that they left something loose, over looked or even side tracked... it happens to even the best...

The way I look at it, safety wiring is reassurance that you tightened it before you safety wired it...
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thanks for the writeup, it helped alot!
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wow, didn't know racing required Safety Wiring...to let you all know that article is good and all but just FYI it's best to have the Safety Wire "twist" go all the way to the hole not like 3/4's the way like a lot of those pics. And I didn't read the article entirely but you want to make sure at the end of the twist when you put it through the next hole, always use the overlapping wire at the start of the hole and wrap the under-sided one to the exit side. I suck at explaining without pictures and I haven't done it in a while so I'm a little rusty. but they would so fail in the A.F. Acft MX world lol.

Good Info but also you don't want to untwist safety wire, if you feel you have to just trash it and start over. Not too sure how relevant these steps are since acft endure higher loads of stress but still good stuff to practice I think.

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I safety wired my bike a couple weeks ago, and man what a pain. I'm glad I wasn't in a time crunch, I would have been much more frustrated than I already was. I think I broke just over thirty bits. I would suggest using a 3/32" bit wherever possible and use a 1/16 only when u absolutly have to. Also using clips wherever possible will save time on things like tire changes because you won't have to cut your wire then rewire it every time. Just thought I would share my experience with you guys.
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got my safety wires done, it wasn't as bad as people think. A good drill bit and you be good to go.

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