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Brake pads. What to buy?

Hi guys,

Just after some opinions and recommendations on front brake pads for the track.

Are the HRC pads all they're cracked up to be?

Thanks in advance.

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gaulfer brake pads suck, get ebc, those are great... HRC from what i hear is the shiznat, but really expensive
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EBC HH sinister pads.
youll love em, and the sound is just soo sweeeeeeeettttttt!!!
1st time ive ever heard anyone say galfer pds suck tho ^^

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I use Galfer on both races bikes 04 1000rr and a 04 zx6r altho neither bike has a stock brake system. compounds used 1375 aka HH and B03 Carbon race pads and this i'm going to use the new 1003 carbon race pads...
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I use Galfer on both races bikes 04 1000rr and a 04 zx6r altho neither bike has a stock brake system. compounds used 1375 aka HH and B03 Carbon race pads and this i'm going to use the new 1003 carbon race pads...
Im guessing you don't think Galfer suck?

You using Brembo M/C and SS lines? or you have A/F calipers also?
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Vesrah are supposedly one of the best brands also... i have a set but i haven't used them. Right now i have a set of EBC HH on my RR and they worked great but i have heard really good things about the Vesrah brand... But on top of everyone's list is the HRC, expensive but you get what you pay for
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Thanks guys! Might give the EBC a go. Although I'm running stainless brake lines, I still have the stock rotors and master cylinder, so not sure the extra cash on the HRC would worth it.
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Carbon Lorraine SBK3's are awesome. Used them with my Galfer Braided sbk lines. Did a track day with the EBC HH pads and they work good.
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Are the HRC pads all they're cracked up to be?
I had the HRC pads on the CBR twice now. The first time I used them were for an endurance race and a few sprint races at Motegi. The long chutes between corners make it a high speed stop-and-go kinda track, so pads get put through their paces quickly.

The HRC pads are supposed to last a bit longer than your average set, but since I used them mostly at Motegi they seemed to have about average life. The feel is a gradual bite, meaning they actually felt a little soft to me upon the first lever pull but clamp down gradually harder as you progress into the braking zone.

In between the two HRC uses, I put on a set of ZCoo pads. For my style of braking they seemed to be a better match. I am very soft on the initial pull of the bake lever and like to have a good initial bite (to reassure me that they haven't faded) and I can modulate the bite with finger dexterity. I was EXTREMELY happy with the pads, but felt I might not be giving the HRC pads a fair compairison since I let them get a bit soft before changing them for the ZCoo's.

So to be fair and confirm that I wasn't going against all the advice I had gotten elsewhere, I put back on the HRC pads. After the first few full speed laps, I decided that I really liked a pad with a good initial bite like the ZCoo's. I ran the HRC pads to the end of their life (which was longer than the ZCoo's) but switched back to the ZCoo brand for that initial bite feeling.

Take it for what's it worth man, I'm no professional test rider or anything.

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That's some good feedback from rocketjockety. Better than mine saying the SBK3's were awesome :)

The SBK3's have a strong initial bite that you get used to so you adjust your braking style. The EBC HH pads I've only ridden once but from what I felt they don't have strong initial bite so they are good to go progressively stronger on the braking grip and slow down cleanly.

As rocketjockey stated, I like that initial bite and knowing that my brakes aren't fading. I've still yet to try the EBC's to the fullest but from what I've read, both EBC and SBK3's are supposed to have a good wear life and I ran my SBK3's pretty long.

Try the popular brands out and see what you like for yourself.

HRC, EBC, SBK3, Vesrah, and rocketjockey's ZCoo's (I've never heard of those).
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where can i get SBK pads.
i initially wanted them but couldnt find any, then i needed them sooner than later and got EBC.
i actually like the bite if the EBC, if the SBKs are even better on that initial bite, id give em a shot.

Do the make that wizzzzzz sound like the EBCs do too?

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I buy direct from a local shop called Cycle Parts LA, www.cyclepartsla.com

But I would also try to hit up a site vendor like Solomotoparts.com or Flatoutmotorcycles.com and compare prices. www.bikejam.com used to sell the SBK3 pads, you may try to call them and ask if they still sell them if you have no luck with the rest of them, but for sure Cycle Parts LA has them because they always have them in-stock.
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hmm, ill try em after i wear out these EBCs.
i love EBCs man.

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I ran SBK3's on my R6 and really liked them. I tried to get them for the RR but the 05 has different pads and SBK3's are not available. I managed to get some SBK5's which are supposed to be replacing the SBK3 but I'm not mega impressed with them to be honest. They work OK but nothing special I'd say. I'm running Braking Wave rotors and an R1 radial master cylinder but had the exact same set-up on the R6.

I've got a set of Performance Friction 95 compounds to try now, they worked really well in our Endurance bike - 1 set did 2 6-Hour race meetings.
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Try the popular brands out and see what you like for yourself.

HRC, EBC, SBK3, Vesrah, and rocketjockey's ZCoo's (I've never heard of those).
ZCoo Brake Pads are a Japanese brand, never heard of them before getting over here either:
http://www.okada-corp.com/products/m...coo_b_top.html

ZCoo also has some pretty cool gloves (I have a pair, but the thumbs are just a smidge too big. Not uncomfortable or anything, just noticable):
http://www.okada-corp.com/products/m...oo/zcoo_g.html

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i LOVE the Dp rdp race pads....
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I rode a season on the EBC's then rode a buddies mid-90's yzf and was blown away by the brakes(stock w/ Vesrah pads). I switched to the Vesrah pads as soon as I got my hands on a set. FANTASTIC!! HRC's were good to(not $$oo great but good), if I had to pick a second chioce the Carbone Loraine are very close in initial bite and feel.
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i'm rockin the EBC HH's. on my second set now, and wouldn't run anything else.
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Has anyone got Ferodo race pads,i have on my race bike and they seem really good to me but i'm no Rossi,and no one else has mentioned them,so does anyone know much about them.
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they tried to sell me that Feroda crap, and i naver bought it cause ive never heard of em.
apparently theyre decent tho, from what ive heard.

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2-hrc pads
3-galfer 1375 pads

in that order. they are also in order for price.


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in that order. they are also in order for price.
no EBC dawg, what sup with that?

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EBC HH bite real good. I switched to Vesrah and they seem to have less inital bite. I did sand the rotors and clean them... the Vesrah will stop you, but seem a tad more progressive.

The EBC were crumbling a little on the edges - normal from what I am told.
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Cause ebc are lame compared to others.

The brek in is stupid on them.
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huh, i like my EBC just fine.
i wanna try EBC pro lites with em if i upgrade the rotors.

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I use EBC and they work great
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What about the SBS pads. Has anyone tried the SBS RS (Race Sintered) or the SBS DC (Dual Carbon). Apparently these are popular with alot of World SBK and Superport and AMA.
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i wanna pu ton new brake pads with my SS lines, but i dont really care for Galfer, and i kinda want to try something besides EBC.
You guys have any ideas, i dont have HRC money either, so dont mention it.
I want something around the price of EBC with similar or better performance, perhaps less dust

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EBC HH sinister pads.
youll love em, and the sound is just soo sweeeeeeeettttttt!!!
1st time ive ever heard anyone say galfer pds suck tho ^^
it's spelled sinter mang, gotcha again hahahahaha!!


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What about the SBS pads. Has anyone tried the SBS RS (Race Sintered) or the SBS DC (Dual Carbon). Apparently these are popular with alot of World SBK and Superport and AMA.
i have SBS pads but not the RS or DC but the StreetExcel which is of course sintered, the stock brakepads are awesome for an OEM unit but we'll see how the SBS compares when i do another trackday this January.

btw stay away from the SBS Ceramic pads, they are good when dry but come wet conditions they suck b'coz they're probably organic pads.


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