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up-Shifting while in the tuck...

I am looking for some suggestions on shifting techniques while in the tuck.

-I am 6'00'' and wear size 11 boots and it always seems like I have to come out of the tuck position in order to up shift.
-When I am tucked I have the pegs in front of the balls of my feet and when it is time to upshift I almost have to come up to get my foot where I can use the shifter because just sliding it forward doesn't feel right.
-I have vortex adjustable rearsets which are currently set all the way back and one away from all the way up.

Does anyone else have this problem, or has anyone found a workaround?

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GP-SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the problems go away...
I had the same problem and this was the cure...
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GP-SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the problems go away...
I had the same problem and this was the cure...
'nuff said!
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GP-SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the problems go away...
I had the same problem and this was the cure...
Can't get any easier than that.

Here's a thread to show you how....
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=33626


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'nuff said!
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Dang it, I forgot to put that in the list. My Vortex rearsets are set up for gp shift already. I was trying to lower the shift lever by adjusting it down but I don't want to lower it too far because it might scrape too much.
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damn, i did that too, but i had no idea it was everyone.
im gonna try that GP shift thing

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What kind of boots are you using???
I am your size with woodcraft rearsets in GP and I have no problems... I use sidi vertigo's, good ankle travel.
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Gaerne Race boots...hmmm...I wonder if you are right about the ankle travel. I will have to look into that. only problem is...they sponsor me...lol...shhhhhh...:P
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well thats info for sponsors man, if you have a problem with it your prolly not the only one, tell em, so they can fix it and make a better boot.
IF... its a problem, i doubt it will be.

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Dang it, I forgot to put that in the list. My Vortex rearsets are set up for gp shift already. I was trying to lower the shift lever by adjusting it down but I don't want to lower it too far because it might scrape too much.
The CBR has the most ground clearance of almost any bike I've ever ridden. It's very close to my RS125 in regards to ground clearance, so I wouldn't worry about scraping a professionally designed race rearset.

Apologies for not getting this the first time, but if you are currently configured for GP shift and you worry about coming out of tuck for an "up shift" I am assuming that you mean when lifting the lever to shift down a gear (i.e from 6th gear to 5th gear). If this assumption is correct then, wouldn't you be in the process of slowing/braking anyway and coming out of a full tuck should not be that big of an issue, right?

Or did I miss an important point (not an uncommon occurance for me)

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Naw i think he has the stock setup, which is why he has to get up an little.

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ahhh...

It is hard vor me to convey my meaning by typing. I have Vortex Adjustable rearsets; they are set up GP shift so 1st up and 5 down, When I say upshift I mean going from 3rd to 4th...5th and etc. You are right; if I were downshifting it wouldn't matter about raising up because the wind would help slow me down.

My example is VIR; on the exit of the last turn I am in 3rd gear and get into my tuck; shifting up to 4, 5, and 6 is difficult because while tucked I have my feet back on the pegs so the peg is under the front of the ball of my foot. I have to slide my left foot forward so my arch is on the peg to use the lever.
When I do that my left knee and left elbow conflict and I feel off balance from the right side which is still tucked. I hope that helps to describe my conundrum. Thanks for the patience.

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I guess oyu are man, :) im not the only one that misunderstood you, since they all replied saying switch it to GP.

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I am no professional, but I would say your going to have to work on your body position out of that turn, maybe don't put your ball on the peg, only go half way since your going to have to double up out of the turn. You elbow will get used the cramped space between your knee. Throwing the elbow out a little is less restriction than adjusting your body to pull your foot forward!!!!!
Good luck.. T
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why not just start the straight with your foot ready to shift?




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Ohh...You bastage...lol! You and your green button :). I thought about a quick shift setup but isn't it a total of about $800.00? Just because the RR has two sets of fuel injectors you have to buy another unit from dynojet that costs an extra 400ish to get the quick shifter to work. Sux
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Have you tried adjusting your (L) rearset down? I see you have some room to move. If that doesn't work you could also copy Ben Spies.


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That is a good thought, I think I will try lowering them on my 1000rr and 600rr, I have the same problem on both. What did Ben Spies do?
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Ohh...You bastage...lol! You and your green button :). I thought about a quick shift setup but isn't it a total of about $800.00? Just because the RR has two sets of fuel injectors you have to buy another unit from dynojet that costs an extra 400ish to get the quick shifter to work. Sux
:icon_lol:

Dynojet, not heard about that problem???

The Translogic system I have was already fitted when I bought the bike. I had to change it from sensor type shift (which was great by the way :icon_lol: ), to button activated, so it was Supersport legal, but that was it.
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