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Will the banjo bolt from the OEM brake fit in the brembo ?

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i believe i had to replace mine when i installed the brembo....its been awhile and a few crashes later so my memory is not so good

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I know the feeling, but thanks ;)

Dont suppose you know the pitch and thread etc ?

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I don't think you can use the stock one. I ordered another banjo and a bunch of crush washers. My buddy installed his and I guess the banjo bolt is a little long and you'll need to use more than three crush washers. I'd grab some extra ones just in case.

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I know the feeling, but thanks ;)

Dont suppose you know the pitch and thread etc ?

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Pitch and thread is 10mm x 1.0mm (fine threading) I just bought one (m/c) as well... :icon_supe

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There are potentially a few issues you're going to have to deal with regarding the banjo bolt.

As eRacer mentioned, the thread pitch you want is M10 x 1.0. You can order up a banjo bolt with those specs from any of a number of suppliers (like Yoyodyne, as I originally did) and it will fit in the Brembo MC. However, if you are running aftermarket brake lines (such as the Galfers I have), the spacing between the fluid holes on the bolt may not match up correctly with the width of the brake line fittings.

An illustration better depicts the problem:

On the left, the top brake line fitting (gray) don't line up with the fluid hole (black dots) on the banjo bolt if you use the usual 3 copper crush washers. You need to add more crush washers to get the spacing correct, as shown on the right. (This is the same problem dayrock is describing, I think.) While this solution works, it's not ideal. It's a b!tch having to deal with all those washers.

I contacted Galfer about the problem, and they immediately sent me (for free) a new banjo bolt, correctly sized for both the Brembo MC as well as the width of their own Galfer brake line fittings. Here's a comparison:



I took the Yoyodyne banjo bolt out, mounted up the Galfer unit, and Voila! Everything was lined up correctly, using just 3 crush washers. Kudos to Galfer for great customer service.



Finally, everything's the way it should be.



Another look, showing my ghetto-fab mounting solution for the brake fluid reservoir. (It's a Brembo part I ordered from Yoyodyne, but there's no reason you couldn't use any other OEM remote reservoir.)


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Good info...thanks for the heads up!
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quassi888 - excellent write up man.

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That was the best write up i have seen. 100% dead on about the bolt threads and depth. But you can always get a fine thread bolt and just shave down the end a little. Worked for my bike.

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Is that Galfer M10x1.0 the correct banjo for the Galfer Superbike lines as well?
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Is that Galfer M10x1.0 the correct banjo for the Galfer Superbike lines as well?
If Galfer uses the same-sized fittings on all their brake lines, the answer is yes. I'd say that's a safe assumption to make.
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. Quassi you should get a job there, you seem to know more about it then them.........nice write up!

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damn, those are some clear a$$ pics!!!
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Quasi, would you share your PM with the rest of us if you feel that it might be of help?

appreciate it.

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FYI
Make sure you guys dont use .025 safty wire to tighten down hose to Brembo.
It will leak at around 100mph when the wind pushes the hose and you will get spray on window of brake fluid. Use .035 or small hose clamp.

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Quasi, would you share your PM with the rest of us if you feel that it might be of help?

appreciate it.
The guy I dealt with at Galfer can be reached at [email protected].
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emailed them days ago.......no response.........HELLO GALFER>........HELLO??
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I'm glad some of you guys got good service out of Galfer. I ordered two sets of their HH pads and one arrived. 4 months later, I still don't have the second set. Called my dealer, supposedly Galfer's giving them the run around. As a result of this fiasco, I'll be hitting the track on street pads. F%^&!!!
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Hmm, that's really odd. Trust me, I have never been a huge fan of Galfer -- not for their rotors, not for their pads. I do run their lines, just because lines are lines for the most part. But I must say, on the 3 occasions that I have had to deal with them, they were fairly prompt to reply, and never charged me for stuff. (Crush washers, banjo bolts.)

Guess you just never know....
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Yeah, Im hoping for the best. If I didnt return one of my contractors calls for a week, I would be what they call "out of business". Well see.................tic toc. Can you tell Im a patient person?............lol
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Unfortunately, ours do the same thing, as far as being too long for the
Brembo master. The only solutions I've seen are doubling up the crush
washers, or cutting down the bolt (obviously the tougher of the two).

I know of literally hundreds of people who have doubled up the crush washers
on these very popular master cylinders, and have not heard of anyone
experiencing any problems with it done that way, if that makes you more
comfortable with that option.

James
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Thats the latest from galfer, so I guess quassi got lucky. Brembo owners will have to continue to rig the banjo and double up crush washers for now.........
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