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04 GSXR600 for a track bike?

so ive been looking for a cheap track bike don't really wanna go over 3k and I have a couple of options 06 cbr600rr track ready for around 3k or an 04 gsxr600 currently as a street fighter/stunt bike clean title probably round 1.5-2k.

with that said I was never a fan of Suzuki, do you guys have any experience positives negatives? the only hold back for the cbr its a lil far from me and the gsxr is local also cbr is a salvaged title.

what do you guys think? I mean 1.5k for a clean title is a great deal but I would need sprockets chain track plastics.. and the cbr is already track ready.. originally I was hoping for an r6 lol

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Mina got a GSXR as a track whore I am sure his experience can come really handy pm him he is an awesome member to chat with a wealth of knowledge



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you'll probably need clipons too, I'd imagine it would have dirt bars on it if it was a stunt bike. After buying everything you need to make the gsxr track ready you'll probably end up about the same spot as the 600rr. Now if the gsxr was a 07+ I'd say get it because it has more goodies on it than the 04, such as a slipper clutch

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you'll probably need clipons too, I'd imagine it would have dirt bars on it if it was a stunt bike. After buying everything you need to make the gsxr track ready you'll probably end up about the same spot as the 600rr. Now if the gsxr was a 07+ I'd say get it because it has more goodies on it than the 04, such as a slipper clutch
it has oem bars, it was more of a street fighter with oversized rear sprocket lol so roughly 150-170 for chain/sprockets and 200-400 for track plastics? plus I figured if I don't like the gsxr I can put the plastics on it and sell it for round 3k + with the clean title.. idk

I was so pissed missed out on 07 cbr600rr for 3200 yesterday clean title

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I would go through the suspension and rebuild the fork and the shock as well as replace swing arm bearings/bushings and the steering head bearings if there is any chance that the bike was stunted. No way I would take the chance of a suspension failure on the track and on a stunt bike the suspension gets hammered.

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You are way oversimplifying this seksas.

To turn a streetfighter into a safe to use track bike is going to cost you an awful lot more than 500 bucks lol
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go with the purpose track bike. You will have so much into that streetfighter to get it safe for the track..

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I'd stear clear of a stunt bike and lean toward the honda. I've also had a gsxr track bike. It was ok, but I'd venture to say less reliable than the honda.

To me, the key for finding the right track bike is how it is set up and how many extras it comes with. These include things you will want and need as you track more and more. I found one fully built - full ohlins/penske suspension, full system, PC3, Quick shifter, rearsets, ohlins damper, slipper clutch, woodcraft clipons and case covers etc.. and it came with almost two of every single part you would ever need in a crash ranging from extra plastics (sharkskinz) to radiators to levers to rearsets to an extra tank...even an entire extra full micron Ti system! All this was had for pennies on the dollar. I paid 4g for mine which is more than most want to pay for a track bike, but I was able to hit the ground running. I crashed a month or so ago and it cost me NOTHING because of all the extra parts. I guess my point is to think long term and save as much as you can by buying a bike someone already built
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You are way oversimplifying this seksas.

To turn a streetfighter into a safe to use track bike is going to cost you an awful lot more than 500 bucks lol
This.

Also, in my limited experience, it's cheaper (not better imo) to buy something that is already built for the track vs putting one together yourself.

If you insist on the GSX-R's, look for an 06+, they come with a bit more options out the box.

Now, having to learn a new bike while developing your technique/style can be frustrating. I would vote for another CBR since you're already comfortable/familiar with it.

Moe, you have been grossly misinformed but I appreciate the kind words.
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thanks for the great input!!



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You are way oversimplifying this seksas.

To turn a streetfighter into a safe to use track bike is going to cost you an awful lot more than 500 bucks lol
well not a track bike but a bike that I wouldn't care as much if I dropped it to have a fully built track bike id need thousands.

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I'd stear clear of a stunt bike and lean toward the honda. I've also had a gsxr track bike. It was ok, but I'd venture to say less reliable than the honda.

To me, the key for finding the right track bike is how it is set up and how many extras it comes with. These include things you will want and need as you track more and more. I found one fully built - full ohlins/penske suspension, full system, PC3, Quick shifter, rearsets, ohlins damper, slipper clutch, woodcraft clipons and case covers etc.. and it came with almost two of every single part you would ever need in a crash ranging from extra plastics (sharkskinz) to radiators to levers to rearsets to an extra tank...even an entire extra full micron Ti system! All this was had for pennies on the dollar. I paid 4g for mine which is more than most want to pay for a track bike, but I was able to hit the ground running. I crashed a month or so ago and it cost me NOTHING because of all the extra parts. I guess my point is to think long term and save as much as you can by buying a bike someone already built
see that's exactly what I want but I know im not gna get that for 3k. I have to start selling the parts laying around and increase my budget lol main parts I wanted to already be on it was the suspension and full exhaust system

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This.

Also, in my limited experience, it's cheaper (not better imo) to buy something that is already built for the track vs putting one together yourself.

If you insist on the GSX-R's, look for an 06+, they come with a bit more options out the box.

Now, having to learn a new bike while developing your technique/style can be frustrating. I would vote for another CBR since you're already comfortable/familiar with it.

Moe, you have been grossly misinformed but I appreciate the kind words.
my top two choices are r6 or the cbr but you do have a point.

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You will need tires, brake pads, oil change, likely an array of fasteners, etc


Bodywork and chain and sprockets may be 5-600 bucks. But when its all good to go at least double that, to get things really good triple it
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You will need tires, brake pads, oil change, likely an array of fasteners, etc


Bodywork and chain and sprockets may be 5-600 bucks. But when its all good to go at least double that, to get things really good triple it

And knowing me probably more than triple. On a good note my bike is almost done haha



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I would relax. If you really want a dedicated track bike, and you want an r6, just sit on it. The 2015 model r6 will coke out with a redesign which means previous models will depreciate.

I assume 6 months from now you will be able to find a fairly nicely built 08 r6 for 3500 ish with a good amount of goodies. I wouldn't back off from a salvage titled bike, but if it's a dedicated track bike, it shouldn't matter.

The above is what I will plan to do. For now, racing the CBR as much as I can and getting faster and better without all the extra goodies is my goal. For now I just have grips, rearsets, a slip on, and track plastics. I'm not gonna drop all this money on other crap.

Once I buy the r6, I'll buy an aftermarket Repsol kit for the CBR and it will be my street bike. It's about to turn 20k miles, and it's still running like a champ, but eventually all the hammering will catch up to her!


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like others said, you are better off buying an already purpose built track bike then building it yourself.....if money is an issue.

I found plenty of good track bikes, but they only came with a bill of sale. This is a red flag for me, but also I want something to cruise the canyons on weekends- legally.

Don't worry about salvage titles. Most "clean' titled track bikes have been wrecked so it doesn't tell much in your case...unless you are trying to re-sell the bike some day.

As a reference point: I bought an 04 600rr streetfighter for $2K. race plastic for $140 ( upper and lower). clip-ons for $100. SS front brake lines for $100 AND I still need some decent rearsets (hoping to get used for $200). All said I will have $2600 into bike before it is ready.

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As a reference point: I bought an 04 600rr streetfighter for $2K. race plastic for $140 ( upper and lower). clip-ons for $100. SS front brake lines for $100 AND I still need some decent rearsets (hoping to get used for $200). All said I will have $2600 into bike before it is ready.

And that's for an old 600rr. No slipper clutch, no goodies, no nothing!

I would really just hold the urge to buy and wait for the release of the new r6. You'll get an 08 r6 with goodies for 3500-4k for sure.


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Yea im taking your guys advice, gonna sell of my parts and get a built bike. Came a cross an amazing deal locally Triumph 675r with everything on it slipper shocks exhaust everything for 4k


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From personal experience use caution with 675r race bikes. We know teddy and the boys with apex triumph so we had an in on some things. If you go that route try and get in touch with david grey of sportbike track tire apex triumph (michelin guy for stt)(fast) hes local-ish to u in Illinois.
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