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Rearsets or throttle tube

Hi all, I'm trying to decide between getting rearsets or a quickturn throttle kit such as the motion pro rev2. In a perfect world i would get both for upcoming trackdays but $$ is tough.
First off, do rearsets really help that much? I'm 6'2" and the foot peg placement is definitely not great oem. But i was looking at woodcraft rears and it looks like they only go back 3/4 of an inch and dont go any lower, only higher. Seems like a lot of money for such a small difference.
Im leaning towards the throttle tube since I feel the throttle rotation to pin it is way too much...
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If you're really hurting for cash look into the r6 throttle tube mod. It only costs about 15 bucks and gives you a 1/6 throttle pull compared to stock 1/4.
As for rearsets, they would probably be beneficial for you if your not liking the stock peg location. Theres a ton of options but i think the vortex sets have the most adjustability. Hit up Disco at Cycle Sector, hes a vendor here and has great prices.
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Awesome man, thank you! Both great suggestions.
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x2 on the R6 throttle tube... cheap and does the trick! plus it's so cheap you won't cry if you get have a off and grind the end of it.
in addition to riding position rearsets like woodcraft (which i highly recommend) have non-folding pegs so they help protect the bike in a crash, and also you can buy replacement components so for example you just have to buy that ground off shifter tip instead of the whole pedal
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x2 on the R6 throttle tube... cheap and does the trick! plus it's so cheap you won't cry if you get have a off and grind the end of it.
in addition to riding position rearsets like woodcraft (which i highly recommend) have non-folding pegs so they help protect the bike in a crash, and also you can buy replacement components so for example you just have to buy that ground off shifter tip instead of the whole pedal
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't woodcraft offer a full kit that replaces everything and a kit that uses some of the OEM parts which can later on be swapped to make it a full kit later?

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x2 on the R6 throttle tube... cheap and does the trick! plus it's so cheap you won't cry if you get have a off and grind the end of it.
in addition to riding position rearsets like woodcraft (which i highly recommend) have non-folding pegs so they help protect the bike in a crash, and also you can buy replacement components so for example you just have to buy that ground off shifter tip instead of the whole pedal

Does it matter what year throttle tube? Or do they all work for any year


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I'm curious if the grip and bar end I already have will work on one or what year R6 will allow me to reuse what I have.

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Your bar end and current grip will work. The throttle tubes only major difference is the part where the throttle cables attach. The r6 one is obviosly bigger. To do the mod you just need to grind some material out of your factory housing, making room for the bigger tube.
And i got a tube from an 08...
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The R6 throttle tube is a must have upgrade...and CHEAP.
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Awesome, as petty as it is, I'd still like the grips to match.

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For rearsets my mechanic mentioned that i should make sure to get parts that i can still use my original rear brake resivior. The vortex's I'm looking at don't mention anything about that, is there any problem with the brake fluid lines with them?
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Awesome, as petty as it is, I'd still like the grips to match.
Just buy the matching R6 clutch side grip, I did that because them not matching would bug me too. However note I pulled both grips off and replaced them with the stock Honda grips after a few months because the R6 grips are slimmer which I don't like and I also felt the vibration more than with the Honda ones. Some might not notice or be bothered but I definitely felt the difference and switched back.

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For rearsets my mechanic mentioned that i should make sure to get parts that i can still use my original rear brake resivior. The vortex's I'm looking at don't mention anything about that, is there any problem with the brake fluid lines with them?
Yeah, it'll work, I have them on my bike right now.

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I'd prefer to reuse the D3's I have on atm, and now I know about the compressed air trick I think I could do them better than they are already; that metal collar is tricky.

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For the price of an R6 throttle tube it's a no brainer. But I wouldn't get a Motion Pro, I would much rather change the way you hold the grip.

But if it's the Motion Pro vs the rear set, I'd get the rear set over the Motion Pro. Being properly positioned on the bike will you allow you go position yourself correctly, and may have the effect of helping you position your hand on the grip better.

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I have the r6 throttle tube on my bike with vortex rearsets, I think this is an excellent and affordable solution for track riding!

The adjustability is excellent on the vortex sets, installation is easy, part quality is high and they are very affordable. The pegs are aggressive so they go through boots faster (I'd heard this rumor about vortex pegs and it is true, but worth it when hanging off a lot).

The r6 throttle tube is just about perfect on track. It can be twitchy when doing lots of part-throttle driving on public streets, and when the engine is very cold it can be somewhat jerky to ride (My bike is using ecu reflash and full exhaust, YMMV on ridability). I have not had any issues at the track with it, and it releases a lot of strain on my wrist with the smaller reach to WOT, and makes blipping downshifts easier as well. and its less than 25 bucks!

you can't beat the cost on these mods, and they're both high quality parts! Even if you don't like it, you can resell it for 90% of cost on the forums People are always buying them up quick because of how desirable these mods are.

Hope this helps!
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If you're contemplating between a quick throttle kit (motion pro, robby moto, etc.) and rearsets, I understand how budget can be a factor.

If you're going to spend the money on rearsets for comfort reasons (or lack thereof) then IMO, this should be your number 1 priority. It doesnt make any sense to have a quick throttle kit and not being able to ride comfortably.

If you're going to spend the money on rearsets and you're just changing the (R6) throttle tube, you should not have to choose between the two. The tube is fairly inexpensive and there's a tonne of DIY posts/threads online.
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Can anyone chime in on woodcraft vs vortex rearsets as far as comfort and crash strength are concerned?

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Vortex has a LOT more adjustability, and the grippiest pegs on earth. Both have great spares availability.
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Thanks guys, yeah i think I'll be able to do both with the cheap r6 trick! And that's a great point about blipping the throttle easier, i hadnt even thought of that point!
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For those of you with the vortex's, what model did you get, the rs265 or rs273. I can't figure out the difference, even from vortex's website!
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Just an update to all. Like the r6 throttle tube mod thread described, the price of the part must have gone up. I ordered an 08 part and it was up to $31. Also got the clutch side grip to match which was another 16. So with tax it comes to around $52. So not as cheap but still a great buy. Also ordered the vortex's for around 350$. Thanks guys, hopefully i can get these installed without any hitches.
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From what I could figure out, 265 is for the 600RR, 273 is for the 1000RR.

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For those of you with the vortex's, what model did you get, the rs265 or rs273. I can't figure out the difference, even from vortex's website!

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Hey, I endorsed the R6 throttle tube upgrade because I did it on one of my old track bikes (SV650) and I was going to do it on my RR too, but I can't find a 'how to' anywhere... there was a link above to the job on a 1000 with a different style throttle housing, but does anyone know if there's a how to for the 600 with the 03-06 throttle housing?

TIA!

ps. i searched a lot but i think i suck at searching... it kicks out R6 as a search term cuz it's too short...
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It's real easy. When you open the housing just grind down the metal fins inside. Also if money is an issue you can always just cut a pcv pipe to fit around were the cables sit. It makes it bigger like the r6. I'd have to look at what size but it's on the site I know that
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It looks like there's not going to be enough throttle cable... can it be done with the stock cables? And do i have to get some slack from the other end?
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My stock cables were a bit tight, even after loosening em up all the way.. i ended up unbolting the clip on. And rotated it forward to get some extra slack.
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For what it's worth, I'd take Woodcraft over Vortex any day, regardless of the adjustments. Vortex absolutely destroys your boots.

That said, I have always had good luck with ebay rearsets and I don't get sad when I wreck them in a crash.

Another option for the quick throttle is to just glue a zip tie into the throttle tube so that it makes the throw shorter. It is a super cheap mode and it really does help. I haven't done it on a 600rr but lots of 250 guys do it (they are *really* on a budget) and I did it on my 125 mini bike and it worked really well.

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