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Bazzaz or PCIII

what do you think is better, Bazzaz or PCIII?

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what do you think is better, Bazzaz or PCIII?

LOL.

That's like asking what is better, Honda or Yamaha. :icon_lol:

They are BOTH excellent.

Both work well.
Dyno Jet has been doing this for something like 15 years. So they have a lot of experience, tech support, custom maps and worked out all the bugs.. etc..

Bazzaz only a few years. Not very many maps. Still trying to work out some of the bugs....etc

Dyno Jet PC has much easier interface, and plug-n-play setup.
Bazzaz is more indepth, but harder to tweak.

If you want Simple plug-n-play, and go out and ride... Get the Power Commander
If you want hundreds of parameters you can tweak and play with, and have the time to do it, get the Bazzaz.

There is also a price difference.


DJ PC Retail - $360 Street price - $260 - $269
Bazzaz ZFI Retail - $400 Street Price - $319 - $339


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go with the bazzaz its up and coming. and with the self mapper it will save you a trip to the dyno!

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from my understanding bazzaz is better performance wise and pc3 is user friendly but good performance just not as good as bazzaz

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if your street go with pc if your track start thinking about bazzaz

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What bout the PCV? Ever think of that? Great product. Few of us r running it right now and its been working like a dream. Hardracing has some great prices on it and the autotuner for it.

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ALSO.. What bike year do you have.?

If you have 07-09 CBR600RR.?

Then you can get a PC V, and get the optional AUTO TUNE, (TRUE SELF MAPPING)

Unlike the bazzaz Z=AFM which kinda tells you what it thinks you should do.... and then YOU have to go and make the changes yourself, and go out and try again..
The Dyno Jet Auto Tune, Actually MAKES the changes on the fly, for you while your riding.







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What bout the PCV? Ever think of that? Great product. Few of us r running it right now and its been working like a dream. Hardracing has some great prices on it and the autotuner for it.
You beat us to the punch. :icon_lol:


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haha I was waiting for you to say something bout the PCV

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i ordered the bazzaz which should be coming in very soon... now i just gotta get the tuning kit ::cough ineedagooddeal cough:: lol

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i ordered the bazzaz which should be coming in very soon... now i just gotta get the tuning kit ::cough ineedagooddeal cough:: lol

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ALSO.. What bike year do you have.?

If you have 07-09 CBR600RR.?

Then you can get a PC V, and get the optional AUTO TUNE, (TRUE SELF MAPPING)

Unlike the bazzaz Z=AFM which kinda tells you what it thinks you should do.... and then YOU have to go and make the changes yourself, and go out and try again..
The Dyno Jet Auto Tune, Actually MAKES the changes on the fly, for you while your riding.







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so if i wanted the PCv, i would order the one for the 2009 600rr and it would work on my 2008 600rr?

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so if i wanted the PCv, i would order the one for the 2009 600rr and it would work on my 2008 600rr?
Correct.
We can convert it for the 07-08 Models.

Already sold over 50 units to 07-08 Owners, with excellent results.


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We can convert it for the 07-08 Models.

Already sold over 50 units to 07-08 Owners, with excellent results.


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Can you PM me a price for that please.

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Can you PM me a price for that please.

$269 & 219 ($199 if purchased with PC V)

http://www.hardracing.com/POWERCOMMANDERS/HONDA.htm




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hey hard. does the pcv work with bikes sold in japan? or is there a region difference? the reason i ask is because i have a friend that rides in japan but says theres alot of restrictions. dont know how much of this is true. but he wanted me to look around and see if the pc is compatible. please let me know.
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hey hard. does the pcv work with bikes sold in japan? or is there a region difference? the reason i ask is because i have a friend that rides in japan but says theres alot of restrictions. dont know how much of this is true. but he wanted me to look around and see if the pc is compatible. please let me know.

Sold plenty of them to Japanese customers, and no issues.

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thank you i will let him know. :D
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im going with the pc3, just to be on the safe side,thanks for the input, plus every dealer that has a dyno deals with the power commander and has nothing bad to say about it.
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im going with the pc3, just to be on the safe side,thanks for the input, plus every dealer that has a dyno deals with the power commander and has nothing bad to say about it.

truth is in the pudding...

are they PC dealers with dynojet dynos?

if so

that = nothing bad to say about it :icon_lol:

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We can convert it for the 07-08 Models.

Already sold over 50 units to 07-08 Owners, with excellent results.


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how much extra does that cost?
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$269 & 219 ($199 if purchased with PC V)

http://www.hardracing.com/POWERCOMMANDERS/HONDA.htm




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I'm interested in the converted PCV for my 07' and the autotune. What's the total price?
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I'm interested in the converted PCV for my 07' and the autotune. What's the total price?
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Still same price as you put in your post.


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so the auto tune changes fuel-mapping on the fly. and the pc3 is a fixed fuel-mapping????
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so the auto tune changes fuel-mapping on the fly. and the pc3 is a fixed fuel-mapping????
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Yes, PC3 is fixed according to the map.

The PCV It's fixed according to the map.
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according to what A/F you program into it, then it self maps... hens the name autotune.



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ok one last ? then ill do my own research. so the pc3 is fixed fuel air/ratio all the time no matter the drive/riding conditions. example my bike has pc3 with custom dyno map. runs super strong at "SEA LEVEL" but when i go up to angles crest (above sea level) my bike losses all its pwr. will the AUTO TUNE make it so i will still have max pwr no matter where i go? thanks. (thats what the 02 sensor does rht.)
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ok one last ? then ill do my own research. so the pc3 is fixed fuel air/ratio all the time no matter the drive/riding conditions.
Basically, yes.

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example my bike has pc3 with custom dyno map. runs super strong at "SEA LEVEL" but when i go up to angles crest (above sea level) my bike losses all its pwr.
Not ALL of it's power. But the more of a change of atmosphere/climate you get, the more of a change you're going to need in your mapping. If Angel's Crest isn't too different than your normal riding conditions it will be fine.

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will the AUTO TUNE make it so i will still have max pwr no matter where i go? thanks. (thats what the 02 sensor does rht.)
You're still not going to get max power out of the Auto Tune unless you get an initial tune on a Dyno. It will definitely run better than a downloaded map, but you can't really guess what AFR is best for your bike.

But with all of the research DynoJet has done, they have preset an AFR table for the AutoTune that they have determined will be the best it can get without getting the best, and it will keep you at that level no matter where you're riding.
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Basically, yes.
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