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PC3- Which Map? help me out

Akra slip-on, Arrow header, Power Commander 3, stock air filter

Once i get the PC3, which map should i use? the one for the full Akra system?

And if i'm installing the PC3 myself, do i download the map from their website right onto the unit? before or after installation?

I didnt receive the PC3 yet, so i'm sure there are instructions, just trying to get an idea.

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really , really , lets see ive got a SLIP ON so instead of DOWNLOADING the SLIP ON MAP do i DOWNLOAD THE ONE FOR THE FULL SYSTEM
hmmmmm
tough call
and then do i install the map before or after i
honestly I would be surprised if you get the dame thing out of the box
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there will be a cd with the soft wear to install it on a computer , then you download all the maps from their web sight and access the pc3 through the installed soft wear choose a map from the map data base and click send map via the usb cord , now me i would use a lap top unless your usb cord is long enough to reach your desk top , but this wont help unless you can get the damn thing out of the box







oh and imo installing the map to the pc3 wont do you any good unless its installed on the bike

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Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Gotta love the smarta$$ answers. Goelz313, take the sarcasm out of his answer and your good.
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really , really , lets see ive got a SLIP ON so instead of DOWNLOADING the SLIP ON MAP do i DOWNLOAD THE ONE FOR THE FULL SYSTEM
hmmmmm
tough call
and then do i install the map before or after i
honestly I would be surprised if you get the dame thing out of the box
you mean i have to take it out of the box to install it??!!?!?

I thought it stays in the box and i just drill holes to wire it up? oh man.

Thats why i asked if it was a difference when using ARROW headers and AKRA slip-on. But thanks for trying to help out. Midol works, try that if your vagina hurts.

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oh, and if you try reading and understanding what i wrote, i realize that i need a map for the full system. but since i have and AKRA slip on, and an ARROW header (those are two different brands), should i use the map for the full AKRA, the full ARROW, or neither, and just get it custom tuned for more money?

hopefully someone with some actual knowledge can help me out.

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go to your local dyno jet guy and get a custom tune for your custom bi-brand exhaust...money well spent....i got the wireless model PC3 so i just had to glue it under the rear seat and charge it...didnt even have to take it out of the box......10 minute install....48 hr charge time...
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go to your local dyno jet guy and get a custom tune for your custom bi-brand exhaust...money well spent....i got the wireless model PC3 so i just had to glue it under the rear seat and charge it...didnt even have to take it out of the box......10 minute install....48 hr charge time...

i guess that would be the best way to do it. thanks man.

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hey sorry about the snarky remarks i could have sworn your were asking if you put a akra full system map on an akra slip on ,I have heard of the arrow header and whatever slipon set up , but yeah just install the thing but i think you have to get a custom map
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The trends aren't the same in the dynojet maps for all full systems or all slipons.
If I read it correctly you said arrow headers with an akra slipon ? I would just run the stock ecu no pc3 or do a full bazzaz thing, Eric had good results with his self mapping setup and his full arata. I tried and tried and tried with pc3 and the end result was probably not worth the investment of the arata
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The trends aren't the same in the dynojet maps for all full systems or all slipons.
If I read it correctly you said arrow headers with an akra slipon ? I would just run the stock ecu no pc3 or do a full bazzaz thing, Eric had good results with his self mapping setup and his full arata. I tried and tried and tried with pc3 and the end result was probably not worth the investment of the arata

Yes Arrow headers, Akra slip on.

Maybe i'll try it out without the pc3 first and see how it runs. then find a good dyno place to get the custom map.

i was always under the impression that with a full system, the A/F ration would need to be adjusted. so you're saying the stock would suffice?

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Not necessarily. Try it first, if it doesn't seem to have any major flaws I would leave it alone.
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Goelz313,

I've got a Leo slip-on with Arrow headers w/ PC and got it dynoed...let me tell you there is a difference compared to the maps you can download...it costs a bit but you'll be more happy with a fine-tuned bike which runs at its best LOL
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Think about it guys! Try all you want, but you are only wasting your time. Put the thing on the Dyno and get it custom mapped. Or set it to the stock... this will be your best bet.
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OK, if you don't have access to a laptop or a USB cord long enough to go out the window of your house and hook up to the PC, then you load the map BEFORE you install it on the bike. The PC (if you are buying it new) will come with a 9V battery connector that will allow you to power up the PC while in the comfort of your computer room. Once you load the PC software on the computer, you then power up the PC and plug in the USB cord. The choice is yours as far as which map to use, but obviously the best bet is to get it dynoed from a COMPETENT tuner, especially for the setup that you have.......one brand of headers and another brand of silencer can. I hope this helps and if you have any other questions, PM on here...........I promise there won't be any smart-ass answers from me.

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ok. looks like i'll be searching for a reputable tuner in my area. that seems like the best way to go. no reason to cut corners. thanks guys.

i wasnt going to get it dyno tuned because of the money, but i'd like to have it run the best it can.

now, can anyone recommend a good tuner in central nj? haha

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