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pc3 vs. pcv

looking to buy a power commander. Just wondering from people who have them if there is a big difference between the 2. And which you recommend

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looking to buy a power commander. Just wondering from people who have them if there is a big difference between the 2. And which you recommend
What year is your bike.?

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You can use a PCIIIusb or a PC V (converted)

We have them both.

They both work great.

If you want to use the Auto Tune, then the PC V is the only option.

If you want to add a quick shifter, NOW, then PCIIIusb is the only option.


There is only $4 difference in price. So it just comes down to what you want to do with the Power Commander and personal preference.


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ya got the IRC for a 09 cbr600rr in stock?
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ya got the IRC for a 09 cbr600rr in stock?
FOR SURE.

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how much for the pcv with autotuner?

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how much for the pcv with autotuner?
Sure thing.

Only - $468 + shipping

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does anyone know from a real world performance standpoint, is there any significant improvement from using the PCV vs the PCIII?

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does anyone know from a real world performance standpoint, is there any significant improvement from using the PCV vs the PCIII?
Head to head, they will do the same thing in the end.

TUNE your bike.

The PC V just has MORE options, and more advance tuning.
So, if you really want to get into the tweaking, it offers extra options.

But at the end of the day.... They will end up with very similar results.

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I'm trying to decide between the PCIIIusb and the PCV myself, but don't know if the V is worth the trouble. Yes, auto tune would be nice to have, but after seeing the PCV thread 1, I'm not sure it's worth all the trial and error just to have auto tuning ability. Maybe once someone posts a summarized installtion "How To" on the PCV the decision will be easier.

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I'm trying to decide between the PCIIIusb and the PCV myself, but don't know if the V is worth the trouble. Yes, auto tune would be nice to have, but after seeing the PCV thread, I'm not sure it's worth all the trial and error just to have auto tuning ability. Maybe once someone posts a summarized installtion "How To" on the PCV the decision will be easier.

In the meantime, I'll do more reading & research to decide ...
Then you should probably just get the PCIIIusb.
PLUG-n-PLAY, ... put a map in it, and your done.

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Then you should probably just get the PCIIIusb.
PLUG-n-PLAY, ... put a map in it, and your done.
The irony is that I deal with software & computer systems professionally, but you may be right HR. BTW, thanks to Hard Racing for responding to my PMs on this subject. I do appreciate your fast response and feedback.

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You may be right HR. BTW, thanks to Hard Racing for responding to my PMs on this subject. I do appreciate your fast response and feedback.

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got in the mail yesterday and got a date with the dyno. so will see if 63.00 bucks gets the a few horses back....

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got in the mail yesterday and got a date with the dyno. so will see if 63.00 bucks gets the a few horses back....

And will you post some Maps..?


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are you doing just a run? or you actually having a custom map created?

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are you doing just a run? or you actually having a custom map created?

Good question.


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are you doing just a run? or you actually having a custom map created?
doing the run for a base line and see what we can do to get the most with just a rs5 slip on and k&n air filter, and irs with pcIII
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so honestly is it worth it to buy a pcv for my 08' and try and figure out all the mapping and etc just so i can have auto tune or should i just got with the pc3 no auto tune but no worries?

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I was thinking the exact same questions about the pcIII or V and if I were to buy one today I would go with the pcIII. Main reason being I don't need all the extra's and eather way I think a custom map is the way to go. SO without the autotune the differnces between the two are very small from whatI have read from the powercommander website.

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so honestly is it worth it to buy a pcv for my 08' and try and figure out all the mapping and etc just so i can have auto tune or should i just got with the pc3 no auto tune but no worries?

That's like asking, "SHould I go with the CBR1000RR, or the CBR600RR.? "

You ask 100 people you get 50:50 split.

Same thing here.

Either way, you cannot go wrong. It just comes down to How Much you want to play with the unit.

Or do you just want to plug it in, and leave it. And go ride.

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got my PCIII put on and added the IRC....took me longer to get injectors than it took to accually plug in the PCIII...but i got some dental tools and could relase the plug with one and pull it off with another...the only one i could get my handes on is the one on the far left as your sidding on the bike...TPS was a piece of cake this time...same dental tool from the top and a flat tip screw driver on the botton to push it off....added the IRC to the PCIII plug then to the eom plug....snap, snap, done....bike started right up but the map is from my 07 with a k&n air filter with yoshi rs5 slip on....seems fine but my muffler samnt made it back from yoshimura so its LOUD AS HELL!!! the muffler should be here wenesday so i will run it then. anyone think the mapping would be off without the muffler? the midpipe is on just no muffler.
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Head to head, they will do the same thing in the end.

TUNE your bike.

The PC V just has MORE options, and more advance tuning.
So, if you really want to get into the tweaking, it offers extra options.

But at the end of the day.... They will end up with very similar results.

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Thanks for the info. My tuner said the same thing, and he installed a PC3 for me (with a Leo Corsa system). Since I will not be tweaking with my bike anymore, this choice made sense to me. The bike runs great.

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i have an 08 with the full yoshi wraped [email protected] air filter and +2 teeth in the rear i had it dynoed first with that then i put on the pc3 the pc3 added 3 whp with the preloaded map for the full leovince pipe i went with that map cause thats what gave me the most power in the end i had 115.9 whp
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You only gained 3whp?
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I'm in the same boat as the first poster. I plan on getting the bike dyno tuned and from what I've read the pcv is more updated and smaller, how much smaller are we talking when compared to the pc3? In addition I was wondering why PCV shows its only available for 09, can I use the 09 pcv for my 08?

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