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Power commander advice please...

Hi guys,

first I bought one of these...



then I bought one of these...



Then I ran it in and got it's 600 mile service done, now I'm at 1600 miles and I need advice on making it go faster please....

Power commander ? Do I need an airfilter with that ? or is stock ok ?

Anything else I can do to make it a little faster ?? or a lot faster ???

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Nice Ride.

You have lots of options for add-ons.

BMC Race Filter, Power Commander V, 520 Chain/Sprocket conversion. ..etc

Here is a complete list of BIKE Specific upgrades offered for your bike.


http://www.hardracing.com/07%20Bikes/07%20CBR600RR.htm


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get a bmc and a pc3 and a dyno tune and go from there is what i would do.


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Is that a slip-on or a full system?
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It's just the slip-on at the minute, there was a 3 month lead time for the full system and I wasn't prepared to live with the stock exhaust for that long cause it sounds like a sewing machine...

On the plus side, it's the titanium link pipe version, not the stainless steel version, so it's lighter!

If I can order the downpipes at some point, great, if not, I'll order the full system in the winter time when I take the clocks off it to send to Buck for his gear display mod...

Thanks for the advice on the upgrades guys, whats the difference between a "PC 3" that pimpin1 talks about, and a "PC V" that HardRacing mentions ?

Also, whats the chain and sprocket change going to do ? More top end, or more acceleration ?

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It's just the slip-on at the minute, there was a 3 month lead time for the full system ......

3 Month lead time.?

Where did you hear that.?

We have a Full System, IN STOCK.


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well you aren't going to get much more HP out of the bike,,, Headers+PC3+BMC+velocity stacks+custom map = about 4-6 HP and about $1500.00

The sad art is you won't notice much of a difference in power..

your best bet is a 520 conversion with -1+2 ,, then you will feel a noticable difference in acelleration ,, it will feel like +15 HP, and it only costs about $150
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@HardRacing - Akrapovic's importer in the UK and they told me they wouldn't be able to get a full system for 3 months, but they had the slip-on in stock... As they are the only importer in the UK, I asked them if they had supplied the system to anyone that may still have one in stock, and they said no, people order from them using JIT so if they don't have one, you can't get one.

@Bucs Anthem - thanks for that link, interesting reading.

@v-tec crx - if what you say is true, and all the effort and expense really is for very little gain, then it seems its just not worth doing..

I'll try and find some reading on the chain mod you talk about to see what difference it makes, I don't really want to lose anything off the top becuase my BF has an R1 and I have a hard time keeping up with him at the best of times.

All I know is I just retired the bike on the right, for the bike on the left:-



and although my old one doesn't go round corners as well as the new one does, my old one (which has been dyno'd) is faster off the mark and in a straight line, I just can't keep up with it on my new one at all until we get in to some bends, which is a bit dissapointing after just spending 10k on a new bike and doubling my insurance premium... I was really expecting the new one to be faster than it is...

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That old Honda is faster off the line? Are you having problems keeping the wheel down on the 08? If not, then you aren't applying enough throttle. You need a HRC throttle and a new set of gears. You'll feel it quickly then...but you will lose some on the top end. With -1/+2, you are probably topping out at high 140s or low 150s. If this is on the street, you guys should be careful. And unless he is a badass track rider, that RR will keep up just fine.

Nice bike btw.

Also, you should check out Bazazz (Always forget where the double Z goes...) as an alternative to the PC. Then you can add the traction control unit if you so choose...



www.LMGTFY.com --> give it a try before you ask

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Keeping the wheel down ? I've not had the wheel off the gound on the new one yet, the old one would lift off the power between 6000 and 10000 but the new one just doesn't seem to pull as hard....

I'll do a google for the stuff you suggested and see what I find, all these terms are double dutch to me but thanks for the input, much obliged to you!
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@HardRacing - Akrapovic's importer in the UK and they told me they wouldn't be able to get a full system for 3 months, but they had the slip-on in stock... As they are the only importer in the UK, I asked them if they had supplied the system to anyone that may still have one in stock, and they said no, people order from them using JIT so if they don't have one, you can't get one.

Ahhh.. UK

Sorry. Thought you were in U.S. :icon_lol:


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Ahhh.. UK
Sorry. Thought you were in U.S. :icon_lol:
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No worries, appreciate your input all the same.. :)

<---- as my info says at the side, I'm actually in Madrid, but I am from the UK and I had to travel back there to buy the bike and bring it back to Madrid, so it's a UK bike...

If you have a system in stock, how much delivered to Madrid ?? :icon_lol:
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No worries, appreciate your input all the same.. :)

<---- as my info says at the side, I'm actually in Madrid, but I am from the UK and I had to travel back there to buy the bike and bring it back to Madrid, so it's a UK bike...

If you have a system in stock, how much delivered to Madrid ?? :icon_lol:

PM SENT.

We thought you were from Madrid, Iowa here in the U.S.A. .

http://www.madridiowa.com/

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Of course you will notice the difference with what you have now vs a full system and mapping, if you can't then you should either stick to a CBR250RR or whoever mapped the PC has no f'kin idea. LOL If you can't tell between the slip on vs full system and mapped, then you won't feel the 520 conversion either. simple. Besides, the 520 conversion doesn't get your bike "tuned" at it's best anyway, your fueling will still be out and won't be making the power or accelerating through the rpm the way it should be. Get the bike tuned right first, then if you're not happy, play with ratios, but I am betting you will be.
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Madrid, Iowa ? yikes... when you type Madrid in to google maps, it only gives you one and I never knew there was another some place in the world... I have updated my details, sorry for the confusion HardRacing!

Well I have ordered the PC3 and a BMC filter and we'll see where that gets us, I'm trying to find out the price of the EVO system here in Spain but I can't find a price on any of the websites that have them so I may reply to your PM soon HardRacing... I'm not sure what the import duty on that would be, it's likely to be considerable and may turn out to be a lot more expensive than buying one here, Spain do like their import tax...

If I can find an EVO system for it, then I will have a slip on with titanium link pipe for sale for the 07-08 600RR but as I don't have enough posts to post in the for sale section then it will end up on ebay if anyone is looking for such a thing... one month old, as new... or something like that...

Thanks for the info on the Bazzaz powermoose1, can't find a supplier here in Spain so I'll stick with the PC3...

Thanks for the input Birdman, I've never ridden a 250 and don't plan on starting now, but thanks for the very kind offer... tbh the 600RR is a bit slower than I was hoping and I am already considering chopping it in for a blade or an R1 or something...

I'll throw a bit more money at it first and see if I can get something more out of it as I love the paint job...

Best place for maps ? anyone ?
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Best place for maps ? anyone ?
Start with www.powercommander.com
And try some of theirs.

If you don't like any of them, have a Dyno Shop make you a customer one.

but, try the Free ones, FIRST, before you go spend any money. more times then not, you will find one that works great.

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I got the same exhaust as you and i'm running the stock air filter with my PCIII. It is the same fuel mapping for stock or after market air filter, so I really don't think it makes a diff what you use. Just my opinion.
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i might have a map for you....pm me brotha;-)
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That old Honda is faster off the line? Are you having problems keeping the wheel down on the 08? If not, then you aren't applying enough throttle. You need a HRC throttle and a new set of gears. You'll feel it quickly then...but you will lose some on the top end. With -1/+2, you are probably topping out at high 140s or low 150s. If this is on the street, you guys should be careful. And unless he is a badass track rider, that RR will keep up just fine.

Nice bike btw.

Also, you should check out Bazazz (Always forget where the double Z goes...) as an alternative to the PC. Then you can add the traction control unit if you so choose...
My 89 Hurricane track bike with bored heads and stage 4 carbs with a Kerker system was close to my 03 rr in a 1/4 mile.

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