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Miracle Mod. Anyone seen this?

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Some guy on myspace sent me a friend request and a message about some miracle mod? It is claimed to add 5-10 hp? I tried posting the video but it was a myspace clip. The site above is to his shop where he has info on it. What is this miracle mod and would you do it?

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So all he does is apply a heat reflective tape on your air box? Don't see how that can do that much of a difference

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He's wrapping your air box in that space blanket stuff... his idea is he's pushing heat away from the air box therefore keeping the air cooler... its like a cold air intake for a car. Similar concept and execution. In theory, i would agree this should work... but you could do this mod at home for a third the price.

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Interesting concept, but probably the worst part about miracles is the fact that they're fake. As humans amass more knowledge about the world around them, things previously thought to be miracles have become easily explainable with our new and expanded knowledge.


Ponder these questions:

Is this "technology" on MotoGP and SBK bikes? If not, why not? MotoGP is the zenith.. you get no more technological than that. The 600RR and just about every other street legal racing or sport bike use technology concepts directly from those bikes. If this is not on the fastest racing bikes in the world, it either means corporations that spend billions of dollars a year on these sports are stupid for not thinking of it first (highly unlikely), or this doesn't work.

Are any major motorcycling manufacturers putting this on their motorcycles? If not, why not? I'd trust the brilliant minds at Honda, Yamaha, Ducati etc R&D before I trust some random guy on the Internet. If this can really make such a substantial difference, the major players in the industry would be doing it already.

Why does this "mod" cost $150? Sure, I know the guy has to do some work, but for a full exhaust, dyno tune and PC3, you'll be lucky to get 10hp.. for $2000 total after all costs paid. Why would people put full exhausts and PC3s on, plus pay for a dyno tune, if this mod would cost less than 10% of that and give more power? And if this mod actually worked, he could easily charge a grand for it... IF it gave you the power he claims.

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it may work but think about it. we have a ram air system where air doesnt SIT INSIDE THE BOX and get all warm and toasty. outside air temp gets sucked right into the engine at 10000 rpms.

you can buy that stuff anywhere, a few s2000 owners have done this already
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why would you need an extra 5-10 hp with a mod? 99% of this forum cant even ride the bike to its limit at its stock hp. waste of money.






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Wait, so he is just using like foil or something? GHEY!! I thought it was a little more interesting. I have better things to wrap my foil with :-)

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Like my heat shields, this stuff is better used to cook a turkey with.

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I bought one and I love it.

Slaps808 used to whip me at the track, now he's just slow. If you see him at the track Aug. 8th. You'd think its just his second track day. He use to be in the 1% that could use the bike to full potential but now, he's just one of the 99%.

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Word on the street is Slaps already ordered this for his bike

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if you think about how long it takes air to go from the ram air inlet into the engine at high rpms, it's rediculous to think air would heat up that much in that small amount of time. every time a bell rings a sucker is born.

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i gonna start putting ice in the ram air
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i gonna start putting ice in the ram air
I was just gonna race with a can of compressed air and spray it in when I need a boost

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it may work but think about it. we have a ram air system where air doesnt SIT INSIDE THE BOX and get all warm and toasty. outside air temp gets sucked right into the engine at 10000 rpms.

you can buy that stuff anywhere, a few s2000 owners have done this already
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if you think about how long it takes air to go from the ram air inlet into the engine at high rpms, it's rediculous to think air would heat up that much in that small amount of time. every time a bell rings a sucker is born.
thats what i said
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I was just gonna race with a can of compressed air and spray it in when I need a boost
oooooo, like a real low budget non working NOS set up...im liking that idea!
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oooooo, like a real low budget non working NOS set up...im liking that idea!
Hell yeah, Slaps can't see me on the straights, hahhaa

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I was just gonna race with a can of compressed air and spray it in when I need a boost
compressed air? just get this
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Well yeah if I wanted to HIDE the fact I was cheating:all_cohol
Bahahahaha

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Well yeah if I wanted to HIDE the fact I was cheating:all_cohol
Bahahahaha
you can. its a mini kit for pocket bikes haha
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I was just gonna race with a can of compressed air and spray it in when I need a boost

Lol very nice
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I can see it working if the bike is hot as **** and you're sitting in a hotass garage with no airflow. Does it work on the track? Thats the question, and because of the reasons previously stated (like how long the air sits in there to get hot) I bet it doesnt.
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constant air flow into that box will help cool the box as well. making the next batch of air coming in stay cool longer
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I'm gonna get some like Dry Ice but it will be frozen oxygen. I'll shove that in the ram air tubes... Then watch out.

like a Busa on the straights... and, well, like a 600 with a fatso on it in the corners. Uh forget about that. Yea, Like a Busa on the straights.

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sigh

so that means on the 8th... i'm going to be passed up by a fatso eh.

my image of me thinking i'm doing moto gp speeds is gonna be ruined when u pass me
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Just in the straights. The toothpick riders will pass me in the corners.

For me to be a true squid, I have to rip the straights and granny the corners.

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ooh i have a better idea; take a vacuum hose, attach one end to the air box, and stick the other end up your ass, and then eat a can of beans right before your race, that flatulence will give you like an extra 5 horesepower!!! super cheap and light weight too.

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ooh i have a better idea; take a vacuum hose, attach one end to to the air box, and stick the other end up your ass, and then eat a can of beans right before your race, that flatulence will give you like an extra 5 horesepower!!! super light weight mod too
that air will be coming out hot....and if you happen to shart, ur fcuked!
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