05 RR Fuel Screw Up - 600RR.net
Exhaust & Fuel Delivery Tips on how to get the most out of your bike

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 11:16 AM Thread Starter
sma
Pocketbike Racer
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 474
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
05 RR Fuel Screw Up

So today without thinking about it I filled my tank with 87 instead of the normal 93 octane. Do I have to pump the fuel out of it or would it be a good idea to pour in some octane booster? Please help!!!!
sma is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 11:18 AM
Moto GP Racer
 
v-tec crx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 7,428
Thanks: 288
Thanked 315 Times in 278 Posts
Feedback Score: 10 reviews
I am pretty sure the 03-04 only required 87 octane,, not sure about the 05-06 but they may be the same,, I think you will be fine to add octane booster

I am from CANADA, the land of poutine, back-bacon and GOOD BEER!!
2012 STREET BIKE OF THE YEAR
v-tec crx is offline  
post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
sma
Pocketbike Racer
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 474
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Any special kind of octane booster I should look for?
sma is offline  
 
post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 11:53 AM
World Superbike Racer
 
dcope17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 2,120
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
I say ride it. '07 and up require 93 octane

Ride hard today, Ride harder tomorrow,!
Walk close to Christ today, Walk closer tomorrow

How to fix headlights... Dreamzboy's excellent write-up
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=138034
dcope17 is offline  
post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 12:03 PM
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NOLA
Posts: 137
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by sma View Post
Any special kind of octane booster I should look for?
You'll be fine running a tank of 87 octane. It's what Honda recommends and it's what I use every time I fill up my cbr. Unless your engine pings with regular unleaded (which it shouldn't) you're just wasting money using anything higher. There's no advantage to using premium on a cbr since the ecu can't "learn" to advance the timing based on the higher octane gas you're using.
novaRR is offline  
post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 12:13 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
busyychild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 2,766
Thanks: 13
Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts
Feedback Score: 80 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by novaRR View Post
You'll be fine running a tank of 87 octane. It's what Honda recommends and it's what I use every time I fill up my cbr. Unless your engine pings with regular unleaded (which it shouldn't) you're just wasting money using anything higher. There's no advantage to using premium on a cbr since the ecu can't "learn" to advance the timing based on the higher octane gas you're using.
+1, you should always be using 87.
busyychild is offline  
post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 12:27 PM
Knee Dragger
 
69ss383's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 121
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Here's a good article pertaining to car engines but I don't know if there are any differences with motorcycles engines in this topic

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...ech/index.html

"Conclusions
So if you follow all the rules here what is the payback? With current 93-octane fuel, it is possible to run as much as 11.2:1, but the safety margin is small. At this level you can be slave to the weather. If it's hot and humid, the water content suppresses detonation to about the same degree as the increase in detonation from the temperature increase. If it's plain hot, such as a 118-degree day in Tucson, that 11.2:1 and 93 octane won't make it."

I highly doubt anything would happen if you run it. I guess if you're not getting any detonation you'll be alright but if it was me I'd spend the few bucks to not risk any extra stress on my motor... not that it would break down, just extra stress that can add up over 1000's of miles
69ss383 is offline  
post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 12:38 PM
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NOLA
Posts: 137
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by 69ss383 View Post
Here's a good article pertaining to car engines but I don't know if there are any differences with motorcycles engines in this topic

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...ech/index.html

"Conclusions
So if you follow all the rules here what is the payback? With current 93-octane fuel, it is possible to run as much as 11.2:1, but the safety margin is small. At this level you can be slave to the weather. If it's hot and humid, the water content suppresses detonation to about the same degree as the increase in detonation from the temperature increase. If it's plain hot, such as a 118-degree day in Tucson, that 11.2:1 and 93 octane won't make it."

I highly doubt anything would happen if you run it. I guess if you're not getting any detonation you'll be alright but if it was me I'd spend the few bucks to not risk any extra stress on my motor... not that it would break down, just extra stress that can add up over 1000's of miles
I'd trust Honda's recommendations before generic v8 race engine stuff. Based off of that guy's chart at the bottom, you'd have to run 110+ octane gas for the compression ratios our engines have.

Last edited by novaRR; 09-25-2009 at 12:40 PM.
novaRR is offline  
post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 01:14 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
SHORTSTACK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: York, South Carolina
Posts: 3,752
Thanks: 48
Thanked 60 Times in 46 Posts
Feedback Score: 15 reviews
yeah, i run 91, never put anything else in it. per the manual it says 91 only.

R.I.P. PHATTY
SHORTSTACK is offline  
post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 02:17 PM
Training Wheel Hero
 
red04rr/94z28teal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 59
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
ummm........ theres a sticky at the top of the forum that says you can run 87 just fine.
i run 87 in my bike every day and im up to 32,300miles now.
if you have a custom pc3 tune for 93 (with timing advance) then you would need it
my camaro runs 12.0:1 compression and i run 87 in it also with no knock
trust me if your bike couldn't run on it you would know the second you hit the gas

04, 600rr, red/black
ddm 5000k xenons
two bros carbon fiber slip-on
38,xxx miles +/- 10%?
bmc street filter
DIY v-stacks for $20
amazon $9 flushmounts
alibaba black flame fairings
PC3 with sh*tty web tune +1% for outside cylinders

Things I've learned.....
Don't listen to that cocky *ssh*le next to you,
that burning smell isn't the fact that you dont know how to use a clutch.
It's cause your on fire!!!
red04rr/94z28teal is offline  
post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 02:23 PM
Knee Dragger
 
rmcelroy2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Alabaster, AL
Posts: 168
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
so what does Honda recommend for the 2008?

I've always ran 93 in all the bikes I've ever owned... I thought that was a "standard"...
rmcelroy2002 is offline  
post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 02:33 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
SHORTSTACK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: York, South Carolina
Posts: 3,752
Thanks: 48
Thanked 60 Times in 46 Posts
Feedback Score: 15 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by red04rr/94z28teal View Post
ummm........ theres a sticky at the top of the forum that says you can run 87 just fine.
i run 87 in my bike every day and im up to 32,300miles now.
if you have a custom pc3 tune for 93 (with timing advance) then you would need it
my camaro runs 12.0:1 compression and i run 87 in it also with no knock
trust me if your bike couldn't run on it you would know the second you hit the gas
maybe so, but i dont and thats not what anyone i ride with does either!

R.I.P. PHATTY
SHORTSTACK is offline  
post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 02:39 PM
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NOLA
Posts: 137
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstack05 View Post
yeah, i run 91, never put anything else in it. per the manual it says 91 only.
Does it say 91 RON in the manual? The sticker on mine says 91 RON as well.
91 RON = 87 PON (a.k.a., regular unleaded)
novaRR is offline  
post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 02:40 PM
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NOLA
Posts: 137
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmcelroy2002 View Post
so what does Honda recommend for the 2008?

I've always ran 93 in all the bikes I've ever owned... I thought that was a "standard"...
I think what dcope said above about the 07+ requiring 93 octane is correct.
novaRR is offline  
post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 03:47 PM
AMA Supersport Racer
 
lilxt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Gabriel Valley
Posts: 621
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
+ 1 on octane booster, never tried 87, but the bike is equipped with enough sensors (knock, map, 02) so ur motor won't explode or knock.. U should be fine
lilxt is offline  
post #16 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 04:16 PM
AMA Supersport Racer
 
PW07RR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: DirtyJerz
Posts: 669
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Unless your bike was retuned with a different gas in it just run what the manual says the same people who wrote that built you engine remember...

Four Wheels Move The Body. Two Wheels Move The Soul.

PW07RR is offline  
post #17 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 04:22 PM
World Superbike Racer
 
Nixinus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 2,329
Thanks: 3
Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 16 reviews
Im pretty sure the 05 owners manual recommends 85 octane or higher. You are ok.
Nixinus is offline  
post #18 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 04:24 PM Thread Starter
sma
Pocketbike Racer
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 474
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
OK, so I bought octane booster, and it is good for up to a 15 gallon tank. I put about 3 gallons of 87 in there, so should I just measure out 1/5 of the octane booster and pour it in there? I would think it's a bad idea to pour the whole thing.
sma is offline  
post #19 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 04:33 PM
World Superbike Racer
 
Nixinus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 2,329
Thanks: 3
Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 16 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by sma View Post
OK, so I bought octane booster, and it is good for up to a 15 gallon tank. I put about 3 gallons of 87 in there, so should I just measure out 1/5 of the octane booster and pour it in there? I would think it's a bad idea to pour the whole thing.
Why are you so worried about this? Return the octane booster, save your money and just put in whatever grade you want when you refuel.
Nixinus is offline  
post #20 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-25-2009, 04:36 PM
Knee Dragger
 
BumpStick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ft Stewart, GA
Posts: 161
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by sma View Post
OK, so I bought octane booster, and it is good for up to a 15 gallon tank. I put about 3 gallons of 87 in there, so should I just measure out 1/5 of the octane booster and pour it in there? I would think it's a bad idea to pour the whole thing.
It wont hurt pouring the whole thing in but it wont help either. My PC3 is tuned for 91+ and occasionally i get a bad tank of fuel (sh***y gas stations around here). I havent seen or felt any gain by using the whole bottle. But if your stock it wont hrt not putting any in at all

04 Honda CBR 600RR BLACK
06 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP RED
BumpStick is offline  
post #21 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-26-2009, 11:13 PM
Training Wheel Hero
 
red04rr/94z28teal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 59
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
you guys need to read the actual facts on octane booster
its basically just alcohol and does nothing for the octane rating of the gas itself.
read the fine print
most brands say use a bottle for so many gallons for a reason
dont pour in a whole bottle in a 3 1/2 gallon tank
they can cause cat damage if overused
dont worry about your gas start your bike and take it for a casual ride
as long as it doesnt ping your fine
run this tank empty, then run whatever kind of gas you feel comfortable with
but just know for the 03-06 the manual says 91 RON which is 87 PON
regular unleaded gas is 87
if you dont believe any of us just google the RON to PON conversion and read your manual

04, 600rr, red/black
ddm 5000k xenons
two bros carbon fiber slip-on
38,xxx miles +/- 10%?
bmc street filter
DIY v-stacks for $20
amazon $9 flushmounts
alibaba black flame fairings
PC3 with sh*tty web tune +1% for outside cylinders

Things I've learned.....
Don't listen to that cocky *ssh*le next to you,
that burning smell isn't the fact that you dont know how to use a clutch.
It's cause your on fire!!!

Last edited by red04rr/94z28teal; 09-26-2009 at 11:16 PM.
red04rr/94z28teal is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the 600RR.net forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome