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Is ceramic coating the headers beneficial?

I have a set of arrow headers SS. Would it be beneficial to get the headers ceramic coated? I just removed my stock headers and haven't installed the arrow set yet just in case it is really worth getting them ceramic coated.
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i googled it and seems to lower the temperature of it by a lot, question is if it affects the sound and if honestly its beneficial, but i haven't herd anything that's super impressive coming out of ceramic headers to be worth the cost.

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doesnt seem beneficial to a bike, under the hood of a car definitely


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Wanted to get mine done just because I don't like that my pipes are a brownish color and my mid pipe and exhuast are black but T doesn't do it anymore so maybe ill ask the local shop. Looks good but like the guy above said not sure how much it would actually make a difference on a bike since the headers get a lot of air anyway

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i got mine ceramic coated but i haven't gotten out on the bike yet... gonna get it dynoed next month sometime although i don't have anything to compare it to, but it'll be cool to see how much hp she puts out... there are benefits to ceramic coating but i think they're all pretty minimal... i got my headers and midpipe done for $190 so it's not overly expensive... i really like how the color came out though, and since i took all the heat shields off it helps a lot with the heat coming from the midpipe where my legs are... can hardly feel the heat when bike was idling... i found this on the net too... hope it helps

http://www.coolconceptspc.com/ceramic_coatings.html

Benefits of Ceramics:
• Decent range of colors available, with more coming every year. The most popular colors available are a ceramic “chrome,” semi-gloss black, satin black and aluminum.
• Withstands a wide range of heat. Ceramics really shine where powders or paint cannot. Ceramics generally operate best in the 1100F – 2000F range and are considered “bulletproof” for cast iron manifolds.
• A ceramic coated set of header pipes will last many more years than ones with header paint. Powder coats will not last beyond the first engine start.
• Ceramics block excessive heat radiation, with 130F+ temperature drops recorded by major trade publications like HOT ROD magazine. The thermal protection provided by ceramic coatings will extend the life of other engine components, especially electronics, through reduced exposure to heat. Thermal barriers applied to complete exhaust systems will reduce floorboard and firewall heat.
• Minor performance boost. Dyno tests have revealed power gains of 8-10 hp in a 550 hp engine. This is mainly due to the heat barriers trapping heat inside the header pipes and increasing exhaust velocity. It was also acknowledged that more gains could be had when installed in an engine bay, where hot air robs power. Ceramics may also be applied to internal engine parts, creating less drag and longer burn cycles during engine operation.
• Durable coats. Ceramics are much tougher than paints and match powder in durability.
• Rust protection. Select ceramics provide excellent rust protection against the elements.
• Good chemical resistance.

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you guys are on glue if you think ceramic coating is going to increase hp haha...

all its for is corrosion protection and keeping header temps down and its going to transfer all the heat to the next metal part in your exhaust that isnt coated...mid pipe and can.

i seriously doubt youd even notice much of a difference on a bike since the headers are exposed to air directly, and unless you have each header tapped for an EGT sensor you wont be able to tell the diff.

under a high hp cars hood its a different story and will be a dramatic decrease in temps.

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None of the members above said that an increase in HP will occur and that it justifies the cost for performance. I think you might be on glue because you are reading what you want to read.

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None of the members above said that an increase in HP will occur and that it justifies the cost for performance. I think you might be on glue because you are reading what you want to read.
Really?
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Minor performance boost. Dyno tests have revealed power gains of 8-10 hp in a 550 hp engine. This is mainly due to the heat barriers trapping heat inside the header pipes and increasing exhaust velocity. It was also acknowledged that more gains could be had when installed in an engine bay, where hot air robs power. Ceramics may also be applied to internal engine parts, creating less drag and longer burn cycles during engine operation.
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Minor performance boost. Dyno tests have revealed power gains of 8-10 hp in a 550 hp engine. This is mainly due to the heat barriers trapping heat inside the header pipes and increasing exhaust velocity. It was also acknowledged that more gains could be had when installed in an engine bay, where hot air robs power. Ceramics may also be applied to internal engine parts, creating less drag and longer burn cycles during engine operation.
Dude, that came from the website quoted by one of the posters. All I'm saying is, no need for the hostility.

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Im happy performance actually mentioned because I wanted to make sure that performance wouldn't be decreased, I'm not extremely knowledgable but I wasn't sure if the ceramic coat would cause the bike to run too cold causing a deficit in efficiency. But I'm probably thinking too hard about this

I'm going to pass on the ceramic coat because I figure if I coat all of arrow header parts and not my slip on then I'm just going to ruin my slip on. I have a hyper-flo slip so I don't want to chance the carbon fiber to get discolored (yellowish) due to excessive heat.

Thanks for the comments because I couldn't find any solid info on the topic when I read some of the other threads.
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