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Help dirty gas!!!!!!!

I have dirty gas, it's contaminated with diesel, I'm going to drain my tank and run good gas in her tomorrow, what else should I do?


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Change your fuel filter and drain all of the lines. I would even pull the plugs and turn the engine over a little. Probably should change the plugs, as well.


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Should I use some type of injector cleaner?


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Me, I would syphon out all I can, fill with fresh fuel and add some Silkolene PRO-FST then see what she runs like.
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There shouldn't have been anything to clog up the injectors unless the fuel was literally dirty. Just try to get as much out of the system before you try running it again. It may run bad at first and even smoke a little, but it should clear up.

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Out of curiosity, how'd diesel get in your tank to begin with?

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The gas station I fill up at f*cked up big time and put diesel In their super tank!!!! I have the number for the vp of that fueling company and an appointment to speak with him 230 today, he assured me I'd be reimbursed fully


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Damn that's a big mess up. Hopefully everything goes well no issues for you

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Ill find out when I get out of work today, I siphoned out as much as I could and brought them back their contaminated gas. After work ill put in good gas an I guess cross my fingers


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Looks like I gotta clean my plugs, can anyone help tell me how to do this?


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You can try soaking them in gas then use some emery cloth to clean them up. Be sure to reset the gap.
You're better off just replacing them, though.


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I know that I mean as far as where they are located and how to get to them


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I'll look it up in the service manual I have, but wow...diesel in the super tank man I wish c10 wasn't $15 a gallon

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Guys I can't explain how angry and frustrated I am. Let me stop here and apologize for this vent, but WTF!!!!!! I can deal with something going wrong if I neglected it, I mean even if I dumped the bike I'd feel better about it. All this trouble is over $10 of gas. If cleaning the plugs doesn't do it I might seriously lose it lol now I'm going to have to deal with this in a legal stand point, i have a young daughter at home and do everything I can to provide and now all I can see is $$$ out the window. As I'm sure with the rest of you, this bike is my outlet to the " real world", on top of all that the owner of the gas station told me to " go f*ck myself" when I went to speak to him, and yes I was polite at first until that came out. Now I'm dealing with the VP of the fueling company and consumer affairs ugh again sry I needed that lol


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That's not a major deal man, it wont hurt your engine unless you run a whole tank on it.

just remove the ****, and put good stuff in and your golden.

EDIT: Before you let your mind get carried away with delusions of court cases and exploding bikes.... Let me tell you that a small amount of diesel will not hurt your bike, it merely has more lubrication and carbons in it. While long term exposure is really bad, short term is ******* nothing.

Chill pill bro... Chill pill... a mate of mine put the BP Ultimate diesel in by accident once, didn't realize until 2 days later, he had NO issues. Your bike will be fine.

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I've had it happen before but it was my fault for grabbing the wrong fuel can. Just siphon it out and put in some fresh gas and ride on. A little bit of diesel in a gas engine isn't a big deal. The problem should fix itself rather quickly.
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How long did it run after you fueled up?


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Haha thanks guys like I said Sry for the vent. I ran maybe 75-90 miles with the bad gas. I siphoned out the bad gas this morning, filled it with good gas and not the bike won't start


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It won't start? Is the fuel pump priming itself?
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Yeah I hear it when I turn the key, could it be the spark plugs fouled up?


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Just went outside and double check fuel pump is priming itself when I turn the key


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So you're saying the bike ran 75-90 mies on diesel without issue and now won't start after you siphoned it out? How many times did you start/stop the bike in the initial miles?

Like others have said, chill, double check everything stupid like kill switch, kickstand, etc. and if it still doesn't start try pulling a plug and looking to see if its fouled. If it ran before it should run again, no need to buy the $20 each iridium plugs if its just a runabout bike and not a track weapon so save yourself the $$$$ if the VP won't reimburse you, search here and YouTube for videos on swapping plugs and you'll be all good.

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Extra carbon would be your only issue here man, if it's not just a silly thing like low battery etc. Does it crank when u hit the start button? everything seem normal just not firing? u have to be more specific.
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Your plugs are probably covered in diesel. Diesel doesn't ignite off of a spark. It relys on high heat from compression. Your bike was most likely only running because it was warmed up and had enough gas mixed in to ignite the diesel. Pull and clean your plugs. with your plugs out crank it in short intervals to get the diesel out of the lines and injectors. This is my thought about it.
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If you put $10 worth of diesel, your tank was almost empty. You have almost straight diesel in your engine, I'm shocked it ran as long as it did. You have to get it out of the fuel system and get gas in. I haven't done it on a bike, but I've done it on a lot of cars and trucks.
Remove the tank and drain the feed line to the engine. Take the plugs out and crank the engine a few times. Put a rag over the cylinders so you don't sprays diesel everywhere. If the plugs are fouled, replace them. It may take a while to start when you're done until the gas gets into the system, and it may smoke for a while until the diesel is burned up. Once it does crank up you should be fine.


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Your plugs are probably covered in diesel. Diesel doesn't ignite off of a spark. It relys on high heat from compression. Your bike was most likely only running because it was warmed up and had enough gas mixed in to ignite the diesel. Pull and clean your plugs. with your plugs out crank it in short intervals to get the diesel out of the lines and injectors. This is my thought about it.
This guy knows! If you bring it to a shop, I promise you this is exactly what they are going to do.


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To late it went to the shop yesterday got it back today and yup that's what they did, I knew that too just didn't know how to do it myself, well $394 but I'm getting reimbursed from the fuel company so I suppose it's and even draw. Thank you guys for the help and keeping me calm I appreciate it


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All that matters is that it is running now.
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If you would have done it yourself they probably wouldn't have given you anything but a tank of gas. In your situation i would have done the same, because you know they were going to have to pay for the repairs.
Glad you're rolling again, be safe out there!


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