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Exhaust wrapping midpipe of CF slipon?

I've been recently looking into wrapping the midpipe if my bike. I don't have a lot of knowledge on wrapping but from the research I've done, most have said that you shouldn't wrap titanium exhausts because it can cause cracking in the future. I've looked all over for an answer but haven't gotten one that is simply straight forward. Is wrapping your midpipe for a carbon fiber slipon okay? I have a two bros vale carbon slipon. Is there any potential damage that could occur down the road?


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Exhaust wrapping midpipe of CF slipon?

Water getting trapped causing it to rust out if it's steel.

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The exhaust wrap helps increase scavenging, and decreases the heat loss that reduces the exhaust gas temperature. The hotter the gas, the greater the average kinetic energy of the gas molecules, and the faster the gas gets from the inlet of the exhaust to the exit. This should, theoretically, result in a (marginal) power increase.

The only problem with excessive heating of stainless pipes is that it may cause the migration of the chromium molecules towards the surface of the pipes, potentially resulting in corrosion by various mechanisms. As suggested, some way of moisture insulation may be advisable, but since I have no experience with this, I would not recommend it either way. The same problem would not occur in titanium pipes.

Obviously, it can also prevent you burning the sh!t out of yourself if you touch it :-)
Exhaust wrap on Ti parts has been known to cause them to crack prematurely.


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Wrapping increases EGT, and will burn out your canister packing faster. Given the problematic quality of Two Noes pipes, I would be remiss to expose the can to any more heat than necessary.
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you will see no performance benefit other than thinking it must be better because you spent money on it.

it is a complete waste ot time, money and effort on a road bike.
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Now that I think of it, I can't recall seeing heat wrap on any pro race bike, ever.

I think wrap is a leftover from car engine builders that had to improvise because custom piping was too close to other objects underhood.
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I reckon you're right. Old school air cooled twins may benefit, but not a highly tuned 4 cylinder 600.
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Exhaust wrapping is used for one thing only on a performance exhaust: keeping extra heat in to help increase exhaust flow due to those higher temps.

Titanium doesn't hold hold up to wrapping very well because as all metals it expands and contracts under heat. That's why these systems use springs and not flanges to hold the sections together, it allows them to move as they expand and restricting this movement by wrapping them can put additional stress on the components.

Some teams get the additional performance from increasing exhausts temp by ceramic coating the headers, this is where most of the gains (however slight) can be found.

It is well worth noting here though that teams at this level of Motorsport will life all of their components and so any ill affects this may have in the long run is irrelevant as they are replaced periodically and well before cracking can occur from the use of the coatings.


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