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i put on a Danmoto slip-on without a baffle and want to put a K&N air filter in it, do i need a PCV for those changes?
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short answer, no, you don't NEED it...

you didn't ask this question, but I would recommend it. you will see much better throttle response and a smoother power band all throughout the throttle if you add a PCV and (and I repeat AND) get it tuned by a professional using a dyno.


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alright, to my knowledge if you change any of the air/fuel ratio it is best to get the PC to help fix the ratio... thats what i was thinking itll make the bike feel "better" but im not sure if its worth that kind of money $400-PC $100- Filter $200 maybe for install plus tune cost....
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A PCV can be bought new from Motomummy for $260. Just an FYI if you are interested in going that route but are concerned about the money adding up quickly.
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Filter and pcv should be easy to install yourself, drop in and plug and play from what I understand

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Filter and pcv should be easy to install yourself, drop in and plug and play from what I understand
This is correct. And if you do it all at the same time it should be very easy to do.
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PC mapping for a Danmoto

with the Donmoto slip-on how would i go about mapping the PC?? i dont see a Danmoto map on dynojets site.
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with the Donmoto slip-on how would i go about mapping the PC?? i dont see a Danmoto map on dynojets site.
You could have motomummy (or other supplier) preload a map onto the PCV. Granted they don't have a specific map for your pipe but something similar could be loaded and it could work.

Alternatively, do you plan to have your bike dyno'd? If so, just leave the base map on the PCV and have a custom tune made.

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do i just write that info in the "map information" box? im getting the filter and PC from Motomummy...
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That's how I did mine. I also did a follow up email just to double check. Let them know what slip on, filter, etc.

As mentioned before though. Since it isn't a full system, smooth power throughout will only be achieved with a custom tune. A preloaded map is close but not perfect.

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with the Donmoto slip-on how would i go about mapping the PC?? i dont see a Danmoto map on dynojets site.

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Unless you're going to put his bike on a dyno, then you're just guessing.

OP, the air filter you listed is good if you plan on cleaning and re-using it. Otherwise, OEM is just as good for street performance and filters VERY well.
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alright how do you make one?
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I'll send it to you
If you don't like you don't pay
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get a map from Dynarex , Trust me this guy is good!
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i have an 07 600rr. i also run a danmoto slip on with a BMC filter. i ran the slip on with out an PC3 with no issues for a few weeks. then i added the filter after i got a PC3 and then i added race headers. i had the guy named "JEFFO" custom make a map for me. and so far it runs smooth.
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also OP if you select a map from the Dynojet website. the 2bro slip on w/stock or after market filter map is the most agressive, then use the M4 slip on map. i wouldnt use the race exhaust maps unless you have headers. i also used the arapovick map with filter too. I used tho preloaded maps when all i have was the PC3 and the slip on.
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How does your map compare to Jeffo's?
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A map made without a dyno is not much better than guessing.
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An educated guess could be better than an incompetent dyno tuner. I'm not sure there's anyone in my area that I trust
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An educated guess could be better than an incompetent dyno tuner. I'm not sure there's anyone in my area that I trust
I 2nd this... My first custom tune (dyno shop at Local Honda Dealership) was WAY worse than the stock map. But a good custom tune (race shop with dyno specialist) is sweet!

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i put on a Danmoto slip-on without a baffle and want to put a K&N air filter in it, do i need a PCV for those changes?
I have a Danmoto slip on as well(IMO its pretty good for a cheap slip-on) and i also run a MJS Racer headers. http://www.mjsperformance.com/
with a BMC filter. i have the PC3 and got a map from www.Jeffomaps.com.

his maps are good and deff. try him out.
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alright, to my knowledge if you change any of the air/fuel ratio it is best to get the PC to help fix the ratio... thats what i was thinking itll make the bike feel "better" but im not sure if its worth that kind of money $400-PC $100- Filter $200 maybe for install plus tune cost....
instalation is free if you use youtube.
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