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Slip ons and mapping!

Alright guys fill me in!

My first bike was a 01 F4I and when i had that a silp on was just that slip it on and forget about it, or so i was told. I never learned anything about PCs and mapping. Now that i have an 06 600RR and a jardine slip on some people have been telling me that i should get it mapped or toss in a PC. I always thought that mapping and PCs were used for full systems and race bikes.

Now i havent noticed anything "wrong" with my bike so far but if i let off the throttle and ride the RPMs down i do get a little bit of popping. Does that mean that its running a bit rich? I have no clue.
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yes - it's running rich. it's not mandatory to get a pc, but it is highly recommended. many say that you should get a PC even without a slipon.. since all bikes are relatively different, you want to tune it specific to your bike. I'm not an expert, but I'm just spitting out what i've learned so far from the board. if you want more specific answer, use the search function. birdman is an expert and he would say the same. not required, but highly recommended. welcome to the board
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i had a RT1 for 22+k miles on my 03, and it never ever gave any problems.
Definately helps man, but it wont kill you if you dont get one man, there are plenty of people running around on here with s/o and no PC, but definately do it if you can, and get it custom mapped, dont dowload shiet, and i can assure you, you wont regret it.

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Ok so step by step what do i need to complete this and how should i approach it?

1. Find a PC at a good price.

2. Take that and the bike somewhere and have it pro installed? Not sure if this is something i could or want to do on my own. The dealer? Even though they charge 70 bucks an hour for service.
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Get the pc from a site sponsor here. They'll look after you. Then get a dyno Tuning Centre to map it foryour bike on the dyno. You can try using maps you download but it's hit and miss and a case of trying map after map hoping you get one you like.

The popping is the PAIR system. Don;'t worry about it, and you still may have some of that even after it's mapped. Ifyou don't like it, just get rid of the PAIR system from the bike and you'll be sweet. Hope this helps.
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I kind of like the popping, but wont really miss it if it goes away. I've got some more reading and research to do, more or less just gotta find some local places that can and will do custom mapping. Look into their rep and priceing that kind of stuff. But I think this mod will go a little lower on the list of "to do".
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you got it ma, thats all there is to it, cause i guess some ctas cat tune a bike a lot better than some you know.

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ok I feel n00bish but whats a PAIR system?

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ok I feel n00bish but whats a PAIR system?
I think it might have to do with 2 of something.

haha. Don't worry I don't know exactly what it is either.


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A number of calls later and only ONE place in my local area that can and will do a custom map. The guy i talked to said he will do a custom map for 300 bones. Is it just me or does that seem high? 300 for just the map, i'd still have to come up with the PC and instal it.

Good news is that he said he could help me set up my suspension and show me a few things suspension related for 20 or 30 bucks. Being that i'm 5'11" and 220 lbs the stock settings could use a little fixen.
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naw thats about where it is, i got a quote for $280 when i still had mine, and cats said that was a good deal. so $20 more aint gonna hurt to much.

gotta remember man, it take a few runs to do get it right, even with the best guys, they wont do it in one run.

No more mod listing, shits is STILL too long

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naw thats about where it is, i got a quote for $280 when i still had mine, and cats said that was a good deal. so $20 more aint gonna hurt to much.

gotta remember man, it take a few runs to do get it right, even with the best guys, they wont do it in one run.
OOOOO ok, think i'm understanding a little better.
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the pair system takes clean air from the air box and puts it into the exhaust system, helps with emmissions, as obviously it is adding clean air to the exhaust gasses, making the air/fuel ratio reading on the dyno say it's lean. If that ain't blocked, the tuner will add fuel to the bike, BUT that os only what is getting put out the back of the bike, NOT what the engine is atuclaly running at. The bike will be made rich if you map it without blocking the pair (or Kleen as it is on the Kawi's etc) system off. Hope this helps.
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