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Yes I know use my search button... but i went alittle further and i need some help. I currently have a straight up stock 06... and exhaust is going on as soon as i figure out which one. My initial choice was the yosh rs-5 carbon/carbon cap. But when i went to the dealer my friend works at he called the Honda tech up front for him to help me out. His exact words were "Dont get the yosh... your bike will ride like it got hit by a truck... you do yosh with suzuki (suzuki tech nods) maybe yamaha. But def not honda. If i were you Id go micron... by all means. Micron or Arata." And he listed a couple of others. Then my friend showed me the micron dual exhaust on my bike and It looks so-so. He said i can get the slip on for 360 after tax. So now Im lost. the only other exhaust that i really like is the hamaguchi... but i cant find it anywhere. I havent talked to my friend since my visit so i dont know what i can get it for. So basically the direction im going in... in so many words is - which exhaust should i get? Im open for any brand... basically anything that looks and sounds good and what ill get the best performance with. Bikes stock but that will change shortly. looking to get a new air filter next... then damper.
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depends on what they want to sell. =P
My dealership said grabbing a Micron is like downgrading my exhaust...
(they had a yosh rs-5 full system hanging on the wall that noone seems to want, haha.)
But Arata or Hamaguchi are both more bang for more buck.
How big is your wallet = What exhaust you should buy.

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well i can get anything below retail... not sure how much a yosh goes for but 380 including install is what he said the rs-5 carbon/carbon cap would be. im not worried about price.
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When I went to get my exhaust, I was not sure either. Everyone called the guy that I went to (who ended up doing all of my mods in his garage) the Honda man. He said that the two brother's exhaust would drop my weight by 8 pounds and give me 5 more horsepower. He also said that the two bro's would outlast any other pipe on the market. I was also worried about the sound. He said that it sounded great and there was also another guy in there that had one on a '03 RR and I went out and listened to his and really liked it. Long story but the conclusion is I love the sound, look and performance of my two bro's. Damn, I sound like a rep for two bro's or something.

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i almost went with a Yosh RS5 but i found something unlike any other slip-on (brand actually) & i'm very happy with it's sound performance & exclusivity. for a quality slip-on you should consider Arata, Leo Vinci, Akrapovic, Arrow, Moriwaki, GPR before actually getting a Yosh, i always find exhausts associated with factory Honda racing to be more appealing than say a Yosh b'coz they mostly make exhausts exclusively for Squidzuki.


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Yes I know use my search button... but i went alittle further and i need some help. I currently have a straight up stock 06... and exhaust is going on as soon as i figure out which one. My initial choice was the yosh rs-5 carbon/carbon cap. But when i went to the dealer my friend works at he called the Honda tech up front for him to help me out. His exact words were "Dont get the yosh... your bike will ride like it got hit by a truck... you do yosh with suzuki (suzuki tech nods) maybe yamaha. But def not honda. If i were you Id go micron... by all means. Micron or Arata." And he listed a couple of others. Then my friend showed me the micron dual exhaust on my bike and It looks so-so. He said i can get the slip on for 360 after tax. So now Im lost. the only other exhaust that i really like is the hamaguchi... but i cant find it anywhere. I havent talked to my friend since my visit so i dont know what i can get it for. So basically the direction im going in... in so many words is - which exhaust should i get? Im open for any brand... basically anything that looks and sounds good and what ill get the best performance with. Bikes stock but that will change shortly. looking to get a new air filter next... then damper.
These guys are feeding you such a bunch of crap! Unless you are getting a full system, a can is can is can. Pffffffffffffft, yeah sure some of them are really nice looking (Arata) but unless they are total shite go with the best price you can get. Before you get a new airfilter or damper do yourself a favor and put some good tires on your bike.
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Well what gives the highest hp increase... which one is the lightest... What ever gives the best results im definitely down for.Obviously looks is important too...
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i am either getting the leo vince or the arrow... the leo vince sounds awesome and looks really good as well.. the only reason i would get the arrow is because i really like the way it looks, i have never heard a sound clip of it though..
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Any place i can see a pic of them both?
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Any place i can see a pic of them both?
Cool pics of the arrow:
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.p...ighlight=arrow

Leo Vince:
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.p...ighlight=vince

it comes out straight, she just isn't done putting it on (the leo vince that is)

heres a sound clip of the leo vince:
http://youtube.com/watch?search=cbr+rr&v=xuMEGmChZhw

i think you have to sign up to watch it but it shows how awesome the leo vince sounds on OUR bikes

there are a handful of better pictures of the leo vince on the Post a picture of your exhaust thread:
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.p...light=brothers

another cool thing about leo vince is that the leo vince logo doesn't come on the pipe, you can put it on later if you decide you want to...
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Im not feeling the downward output on the muffler... Basically pitted against micron and hamaguchi... does hamaguchi have a website? How much does it weigh? is it lighter than stock? Also; Micron makes a cool looking anodized fade that would match my bike but i cant find them anywhere to compare prices...
But hamaguchi seems to be my first choice.
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If you're looking for the best performance on our bikes get the Arata full system with a PC and get a custom map for it.

Also those guys at your dealer are complete morons. Yoshimura is not a Suzuki specialist. If you really like the Yoshi get it. 380 installed is not a bad price at all. The majority of the people here have the Yoshimura.

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price of hamaguchi?
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well its an $80 install fee... which he cant waive cuz its not his department... but the hamaguchi is the most appealing to me next to the rs5... cant find the slip on anywhere/
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well its an $80 install fee... which he cant waive cuz its not his department... but the hamaguchi is the most appealing to me next to the rs5... cant find the slip on anywhere/
DIY duder! Installing a slipon is piss-easy. A full system and a power commander can't be that much harder. Do you own a torque wrench and service manual? Get to work!
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this helps, i think full is the way to go..
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can i go slip on now.. and tthen add headers later?
Also anybody know where to get a hamaguchi slip on?
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can i go slip on now.. and tthen add headers later?
Also anybody know where to get a hamaguchi slip on?
Jardine sells headers and slipons. I don't know if you can buy the slip on and install it and then later buy the headers and have it all match up but I bet it does.
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jardines look decent too...
still waiting on some hamaguchi info though
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Do you race or something Shaun?
The amount of power that these bikes have is enough for most riders. Speaking just for myself, the need for a full system is not really there. I would rather spend the cash burning up a few sets of tires getting to be a better rider than adding more HP to a bike that already has more than I can use.
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by that im guessing that hamaguchi doesnt make a slip on...

if thats the case ill go with micron or arata... i still need to do some research
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like most dudes in this forum he's just after the sound, Shaun just get what you like & be done with it.


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Naah sound isnt what im looking for... Im looking for performance/cosmetics sounds def a bonus though... I dont want my bike to run like poop...
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trust me even with stock exhaust your bike won't run like poop, it's what you do after mods that will determine if it will run like poop at all, if you plan on getting the best exhaust system money can buy Hamaguchi, Arata, Akrapovic, Moriwaki & Arrow full systems are the ones too look out for but you'll need a PCIII & custom map to get the best out of a full system, full system alone won't give you powergains it may actually make your bike run worse. if money isn't a problem then go for it.

should you be on a tight budget just get a slip-on.


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Ok visit to dealership #2 today... montgomeryville cycles of PA... dealership#1 was crazy freddies of longisland ny... so I get to the parts dept. and i get pointed to a guy in helmets section and said hell tell you what ever you need to know... this guy was incredibly knowledgeable... and hes been racing for 20 some odd years... Told him what DS #1 said... and he basically laughed in my face... so did the 5 some odd people standing around... But what he did say was... not mandatory... but recommended... is a pc3 when changing exhaust... he said all slipons are pretty much alike... but he said that if i were him... hed either go yoshimura or akrapovic... he said hes a huge fan of akro... although he has a yosh on his current gsxr... i spent a good hour picking this mans brain... we covered everything from pc3 to frame sliders to tires to shocks... he even went as far as to take me through the "employees only" door and show me exhibits a and b of why frame sliders are good... but thats off topic... so yeah yosh is now back ontop... he showed me an akropovic exhaust that has an end cap just like the rs-5 but i cant seem to find it... but it looks awesome... but he said if your gunna get an exhaust the next upgrade should be a pc3 if you want the most from the pipe... he also said... a stock bike with a pc3... vs a bike with exhaust with no pc3 will run more efficient... in so many words...
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whatever makes you happy dude. :rolleyes:


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whatever makes you happy dude. :rolleyes:
well theres that... plus im also putting info out that im getting to my fellow 600rr riders who are also looking for a pipe. Dont know what the roll of the eyes are for. no need to be a richard.
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hahahaha if the guy knows much at all he'd know that for what YOU SAY you want, Yosh just don't cut it. As for Suzuki's and Yosh, every man and his dog THINKS that they are THE exhaust for those bikes, but that is pure crap. A 4 cyl motor is a 4 cyl motor, there is no secret inside info only Yosh have that others don't for Suzuki's. Just coz someone races bikes doesn't mean they know jack either, and while this guy may know heaps, most of the good racers I know, know SFA about what works what doesn't and far more about riding their bike fast.

If you want h.p you're looking at Arata, Sato or Leo, or Micron, and even more so for the full system. Yosh system gives the same h.p as their slip on on the 600RR and 1000RR and on GSXR's I've seen plenty of pipes and systems give way more h.p than Yosh systems give them.

Just coz someone says "I race and have done for 11ty years" does not mean they know what they are on about. Again , not saying he doesn't aboutplenty of things, but on exhausts he obviously don't know much, coz Yosh just plain don't cut it. He's obviously as good a sales guy as he was a racer though. LOL Hope this helps.
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It definitely helps... Look Im not in it for racing... I just bought a pc3... i just want a nice smooth ride that looks good... but if im gunna dish out the money i wanna get something that performs best for the price... Ive been looking at akrapovics and the yoshs... the rs-5 carbon cone is like impossible to find... ive seen the akrapovic with the cone cap but i dont think they make that for the cbr yet.. so in a nutshell it looks as if akrapovic is my choice of pipe... anything on them? All in all... i just dont want that down angle on the end of the pipe... Im so picky i dont even know what i want lol. But seriously... what about the akrapovic carbon s/o?


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hahahaha if the guy knows much at all he'd know that for what YOU SAY you want, Yosh just don't cut it. As for Suzuki's and Yosh, every man and his dog THINKS that they are THE exhaust for those bikes, but that is pure crap. A 4 cyl motor is a 4 cyl motor, there is no secret inside info only Yosh have that others don't for Suzuki's. Just coz someone races bikes doesn't mean they know jack either, and while this guy may know heaps, most of the good racers I know, know SFA about what works what doesn't and far more about riding their bike fast.

If you want h.p you're looking at Arata, Sato or Leo, or Micron, and even more so for the full system. Yosh system gives the same h.p as their slip on on the 600RR and 1000RR and on GSXR's I've seen plenty of pipes and systems give way more h.p than Yosh systems give them.

Just coz someone says "I race and have done for 11ty years" does not mean they know what they are on about. Again , not saying he doesn't aboutplenty of things, but on exhausts he obviously don't know much, coz Yosh just plain don't cut it. He's obviously as good a sales guy as he was a racer though. LOL Hope this helps.

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Ifthat is what you wnat, then go for it. It'll bebetter than Yosh. Man, I laughed when I read your post from that guy who "knew what he was on about", coz Yosh and Jardine are STARTING POINTS. From there on it's all upward and onward in regard to h.p.

As for downward sloping mufflers..................... hmmm you seen this?





But nothing wrong with Akra for a slip on, it's your bike.
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