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is a pc3 worth it?

hi guys......im planning to upgrade to a slip on exhaust and swap my stock air-filter for a k&n and also planning to add on some iridium plugs do you guys think investing in a power commander is worth it??
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Ya the PCIII is one of the best mods I made.

Im not sure what you plan to achieve by wasting the $$ on IRIDUM PLUGS, unless your bike has some high milage on it, save your $$.

Same goes for the K&N the majority stick with the stock filter.....
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how much power does it really release,... and how noticable is the power increase,....I know, I know, you guys will say search dyno charts ... Im just curious also,
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The bike comes STOCK with Iridium plugs.

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PC3 is ok, I think I noticed a difference but nothing crazy. To me it was not night and day, I even had a custom map wrote.

I'd say get it but only if you have all the "common" mods done already.

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With the power commander can you have full power at about 75% of the throtlle??

I'm thinkin' of buyin' home if I can have that feature (like a electronic HRC thortlle)...
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No you cannot, but you will notice the difference the PC makesmore than whatever pipe you are running made. It doesn't ADD any power as such, it allows teh tuner to adjust the air/fuel throughout the map to acheive the power it should be making anyway, but isn't cause of the fueling. Besides that, it ain't about power per say, it's so much more about rideability, rolling on out of corners, faster accelleration from lower in the rpm and generally a much nicer rider over all.
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I don't mean it adds power. I just want to know if it alows you not havin' to roll the throttle all open (e.g. having full power at 75% of the throtlle open)...

I think I'm not explaining myself right...
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Ok...Thanks!
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what you're looking for is a quick turn throttle. Send a pm to Simonkobejapan either here or on the 1000rr forum, he's got pretty trick ones from Japan. Hope this helps.
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Ok..Thanks Birdman.
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Is a PCIII an absolute necessity if you are upgrading your exhaust with a slip-on?

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depends on what you deem to be necessary. LOL For me it would be, only coz I know how much better it is once it's mapped. But it will not hurt your bike by not having it, so in that regard, no it's not necessary
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Is a PCIII an absolute necessity if you are upgrading your exhaust with a slip-on?
No.

I ran my D&D for a year with no problems and the bike ran just find.

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I thought I'd just add to this thread and say: I did not notice a significant difference with the PC3. I would recommend other upgrades first, as someone else suggested. I wanted to get a steering damper instead, but I was already installing a speedo healer and figured I'd do both the speedo healer and PC3 at the same time.

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it will not add power, but it will smooth out your throttle and allow your bike to be running at its full potential. i have a arata slip, fp v-stack, oem filter and my throttle has so many dead spots..its harder to find the sweet spot coming out of turns and accelerating. it seems that im working the bike so much harder than it needs be just to get power out of it. my buddy has the same mods with a pc3 and his throttle is so much more crisp and the power delivery is consistent. i guess it just bugs me that i have to search for power. after riding his bike, it made me realize how much i need a pc3. necessary? no...but good to have nonetheless for the rideablilty of your bike.

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i wouldn't buy a pc3 for just a slip on, they are almost 300 bucks!!!! if you are gonna invest in a full system it may be worth it. i bought one for my slip on and imo it was the worst mod i bought due to the price. guess i'll just have to get a full system!!!!!!!!!!!


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PCIII not required with the Jardine Slip-On

One of the main reasons I went with the Jardine Slip-On was to avoid having to spend the money on a PCIII.
The way the pipe looked and sounded was the other. (it knocked 8-lbs off from the stock pipe).
As for me, I think buying the Jardine pipe and then using the money you would spend on the PCIII to buy a Steering Damper is the way to go. You get two items essential for Sport Bikes that the everyday rider can benefit from.
The PCIII will be something I purchase down the road, more so as I get into going to the track and have to worry about ever changing temps, altitudes, gearing, etc.
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i wouldn't buy a pc3 for just a slip on, they are almost 300 bucks!!!! if you are gonna invest in a full system it may be worth it. i bought one for my slip on and imo it was the worst mod i bought due to the price. guess i'll just have to get a full system!!!!!!!!!!!

You say that now...but have you rode a bike that has been tuned with a custom map...its like a new bike. My friends bike with yosh slip and v-stacks ran a 99 baseline and 108 after the tune. those results are no joke.

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I did notice quite a difference after I put my pcIII on, I had it mapped too. The biggest thing that I noticed is that almost everytime I hit second gear it sends the bike straight up. I was never able to do that before, now it just does it.

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"I did not notice a significant difference with the PC3"

That's coz the map in it sucked. PC's aren't just some magic box you add on and all is good. They are a tool to allow you to MAKE THINGS GOOD because, regardless of how wellyou think your bike runs now, it is OUT in it's fueling, and more so witha pipe, and more again with the full system. I can put a PC on your bike, load amap in it that will make it go worse trhan stock, but that doesn;'t mean the PC is crap, ornot worth it, it means the map is crap. I can't say this enough, but to the guys that have PC's or are getting them, GET THEM MAPPED RIGHT, or else what is the point. There are no "good and bad" maps to download, they were right for the bike they were done on and that is my point. THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. Hope this helps.
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