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View Poll Results: Do you press the button? Do you believe in a god?
Yes, keep pushing. No, I don't believe in a god. 32 24.81%
Yes, keep pushing. Yes, I believe in a god. 33 25.58%
No, stop pushing. No, I don't believe in a god. 15 11.63%
No, stop pushing. Yes, I believe in a god. 49 37.98%
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post #1 of 69 (permalink) Old 06-16-2008, 10:28 AM Thread Starter
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Push the button or don't push the button?

Just a fun little poll... First read the story and then answer the questions on how you would respond.

A stranger walks up to you and presents you with a button. He tells you that he will pay you $10 for every time you press this button. He doesn't tell you what the button does, but on further inspection, you notice that the button is not connected to anything. You agree and take the button home. On the first day, you manage to push the button 1283 times. The next day, you notice that your checking account had a recent deposit of $12,830. That night, the late night news shows that a 1283 people died in a small village somewhere around the world. The following day, you managed to push the button a 1895 times. The day after, a deposit of $18,950 is deposited into your checking account. Again, the evening news shows that 1895 people died in a hurricane in a city across the nation. This continues to happen, that whatever number of times you press the button, the same number of people seem to die in a tragic disaster.

So the question is...
Do you keep pushing the button?

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Do you believe there is a god?

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wtf kind of poll is this?!?! lol



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lol this is crazy....
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hahaha. i'm just curious what most people would do :P

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i would try to see how many times in an hour i could press the button and then try to beat that time the next hour.

could i pick the people that are killed off as well cause that would really influence the numbers of times i press it
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I have a question:

Why is... THE G MAN... involved here?
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that's what i'm sayin.

world could use some population control.
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"I have a question:

Why is... THE G MAN... involved here?"

question about conscience. question about if you believe in coincidences.

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question about conscience.
lost that a long time ago
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"I have a question:

Why is... THE G MAN... involved here?"

question about conscience. question about if you believe in coincidences.
I've got both. i have a conscience and i do believe in coincidence. But i don't let either bother me though.

but that's not in the poll.
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If i really thought that I was killing people by pressing the button, I would stop. And I don't believe in god.

People saying that the world could use population control.. you are awesome. I bet you thought the same thing when 911 happened and all of those innocent people lost their lives. Maybe your family should get in a car wreck and die today because the world is too populated.

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that's what i'm sayin.

world could use some population control.
That's funny because I thought the same thing. I believe in God so I believe that he has sovereign control of who goes when and why. Even if the button was pressed "x" number of times and "x" number of people died, I wouldn't think twice that God still had control over that independent of me pressing a button. That being said, I do believe we need some population control. Too many people on this earth with not enough resources.

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If i really thought that I was killing people by pressing the button, I would stop. And I don't believe in god.

People saying that the world could use population control.. you are awesome. I bet you thought the same thing when 911 happened and all of those innocent people lost their lives. Maybe your family should get in a car wreck and die today because the world is too populated.

Ignorant comments.
Your comment is ignorant. You're comparing a real-world event with some member on a motorcycle forum, offering up a facetious poll. Please. Don't go and condemn someone's comments as a pock mark on their character. The world does need some population control. There are an awful lot of people with not enough resources (coupled with abuse of resources in richer countries) to take care of everyone. But since you're judging and condemning people for their response to a poll, let me ask you this:

When was the last time you gave up of your "wealth" to help any of the recent disaster victims? Based on your comment, I assume you're a consummate philanthropist, correct?

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People saying that the world could use population control.. you are awesome. I bet you thought the same thing when 911 happened and all of those innocent people lost their lives. Maybe your family should get in a car wreck and die today because the world is too populated.
really


and yes we do need pop control. tell that the neighbors with 10 kids living in a 1 bedroom house that they need to stop whelping. think about all the resources we could free up if people only had the number of kids that they personally could afford. and nope, my family isnt a drain on society. we take care of ourselves without your tax dollars.


and me personally,
id ask for two buttons
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That's funny because I thought the same thing. I believe in God so I believe that he has sovereign control of who goes when and why. Even if the button was pressed "x" number of times and "x" number of people died, I wouldn't think twice that God still had control over that independent of me pressing a button. That being said, I do believe we need some population control. Too many people on this earth with not enough resources.
So it would not be your independent decision to push the button, if it in fact led to the deaths of so many since God is in control of who goes, he would also be in control of what leads to the peoples deaths. Thus the button pushing is not independent of God but a direct effect of God and you have no independent say in the matter. Even though fatalism seems to conform to the idea of free will, it is not free will in the common usage of the term. The assumption that we would have control over who dies or not by our own will to push the button is incoherent on such a view.

Oh and CBR/CUT, not cool bro. You can disagree with others but wishing death on their loved ones is something that I hope this forum does not tolerate.
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Wow, all the hate. I dont wish death on anyone or their families. What I was trying to show is that the population some people are trying to control (by killing them, thats what the "button" does), they all have someone who loves them.

Don't even turn it around and say I aint cool. Like I said, I dont wish death on anyone's family, and I brought up 911 because many people around the world would say "good, america is too populated anyways.

I agree the world is over populated, I hate the drain on society and the fact that I have to pay for a lot of lazy ass people. Pushing a button to kill them off isn't the answer. And thats the topic of this post, and people said they would do it, because we need population control. Don't blame me for taking offense to that.

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Your comment is ignorant. You're comparing a real-world event with some member on a motorcycle forum, offering up a facetious poll. Please. Don't go and condemn someone's comments as a pock mark on their character. The world does need some population control. There are an awful lot of people with not enough resources (coupled with abuse of resources in richer countries) to take care of everyone. But since you're judging and condemning people for their response to a poll, let me ask you this:

When was the last time you gave up of your "wealth" to help any of the recent disaster victims? Based on your comment, I assume you're a consummate philanthropist, correct?
Oh, I donate every year. And more than that, I donate my time to these countries, by being in the US Army, going places where I am needed. I don't need a lecture from you, when you feel you are more important than the other people in the world who also need resources.
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simple .push the button and stop watching TV,.....

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getting paid for following orders isn't what i consider "donating your time." i believe that's called a JOB.

any any rate, you're talking about choosing who dies. we're not. there is no selection process here. this is "push button +1, world population -1." Very inhumane, i know... but maybe that's the best way. thermonuclear war would do it too.
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getting paid for following orders isn't what i consider "donating your time." i believe that's called a JOB.

any any rate, you're talking about choosing who dies. we're not. there is no selection process here. this is "push button +1, world population -1." Very inhumane, i know... but maybe that's the best way. thermonuclear war would do it too.
Maybe some people consider it just a job, but I don't.

My whole point in this is that everyone is ok with someone else from somewhere else dying, but when it hits home, it is a little bit different. And every time you push this button, it hits home for someone.

Doesn't really matter, everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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i believe in fate and i think the big guy has a plan for all of us.. if im guna die walking across the street when im 70 then thats whats guna happen..
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If I knew for a fact that I was directly causing the deaths of the people by pushing the button, then I would stop pushing the button.
In your story, you said that i had already made $31780 in the first two days anyway...

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I have a question. Why wouldn't you keep on pushing the button? If something like this were to happen, how do you think these disasters happened? (More so along the lines of, how do you explain this coincidence?)

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Whoever is pushing it sucks! I'd get more than 1895 in one day. After the first day, I'd quit my job and push that damn button all day! There is no promise that my pushing means I'm killing the same amount. Just a coincidenceto me.


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so wheres the option for "push button till you were satisfied with your financial status, then quit."

i dont want carpaltunnel (sp?) from killing people with a button, theres more entertaining ways, lol

the only difference between suicide and killing yourself is whether or not you had fun while doing it. ( Me )

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The world does in fact need population control, but not by killing people that are already here. I say we take Bob Barkers Advice and Sally Strothers Urgings, and combine them to make an infomercial about thrid world children with the monologue, "for just 60 cents a day, the price of a cup of coffee, you can help prevent the spreading of hunger and poverty in this 3rd world country by sponsoring a child. Your 60 cents can go a long way in having a child spayed or neutered, because no one should be involuntarily brought into a world like this under these conditions. These children did not ask for extreme poverty and hunger, so keep these ignorant people from reproducing at a rate at which they cannot afford!"

Obviously this is targeting only one type of person, so it is not politically correct, but honestly think about it... If people who simply could not afford a child (already living in poverty, or on gov't assistance) were prohibited from reproducing somehow until the conditions changed, there would be less people being brought into the world immediately thrown into poverty and hunger wouldn't that be humane? What about the fact that kids are brought up, they learn values about life, ambition, how to get a job. Do you think it is a coincidence that MOST kids from a 'normal' upbringing continue on to be 'normal' whereas MOST kids that live in poverty continue to live in poverty. You live the life you were brought up to live. **I say MOST, because there are always exceptions, and SOME kids in 'normal' lives make choices that eventually lead to them living in poverty, and some kids living in poverty do make something of themselves (usually it is another mentor of some sort other than their parents that are encouraging their personal and societal development, which further supports the idea)

Sorry if it seems like I dislike 'poor people' but the reality is, some of the people living in poverty choose it. It may not be a direct choice like, "hey, I think I am gonna be poor today" but they make the choice not to get a job, or they chose to do drugs, which messed up their life, etc. It is the ones that don't have the choice when they are brought into the world living in a crack shack, etc. that truly don't deserve it.

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