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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-06-2010, 12:01 AM Thread Starter
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Shoya Tomizawa death

I am doing a research for psychology on what people will do after seeing a death of a rider. I want to make a poll:

Does Shoya Tomizawa death make you ever wonder what to do while riding your own bike? Whould you try to improve your skills so you don't crash? Or are you going to still going to ride your bike like you stole it? Or are you going to ride it normal as you always did and be more alerted?

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I'm sorry, but there is no amount of learning or skill that can be involved to avoid a crash like what happened to Tomizawa. It was a racing accident that could have happened to anyone. It also has absolutely no place in being compared to anything that will happen on the street like your questions suggest.

To be honest, I find this thread topic to be insanely disrespectful, poorly thought out, and of bad taste.
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I'm sorry, but there is no amount of learning or skill that can be involved to avoid a crash like what happened to Tomizawa. It was a racing accident that could have happened to anyone. It also has absolutely no place in being compared to anything that will happen on the street like your questions suggest.

To be honest, I find this thread topic to be insanely disrespectful, poorly thought out, and of bad taste.
Please don't be sorry, I just want to see what people think after the crash. I took introduction to psychology 1 class and going to take psychology 2 class soon and I want to learn what people think. Just because it is in a track, does it change your riding habits on the street because of this crash? Would you stop riding because of this crash?

In psychology, when we see an event like a crash, it might change us. I am very curious in finding how many people will change their riding habits if they see this event. Also, I am not questioning your skills, I am simply asking if this event changed your life. This event changed my perspective like that I should wear full leathers and that I have to be more alerted because the road has many hazards.

EDIT: Please post any suggestions and if the adminstrator finds this offensive, please delete it. I am only trying to find out how many people are affected by this crash and that they want to learn to be better rider.

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I don't question that events like this change people, but throwing Tomizawa's skill into question, stupidly assuming learning more skills will stop a racing accident, and comparing racing situations to the street is what is wrong with your thread.
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I don't question that events like this change people, but throwing Tomizawa's skill into question, stupidly assuming learning more skills will stop a racing accident, and comparing racing situations to the street is what is wrong with your thread.
I am not trying to point out Tomizawa's skill. I am trying to say this, will his death on a motocycle motivate a person to change their skills on a motorcycle in the streets?

Did his death make you change your riding skills? That is what I am trying to ask. I am not saying that his leaning skills resulted a crash, I am asking if the crash affected you.

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Yeah crashes happen every day. whether it be in a car or on a bike. I drive tow trucks for a living and i see and have to get involved in (sometimes) fatal accidents almost every day. I can NOT let it affect my driving habits, judging by my personal driving records i believe i have enough skill to handle just about any situation thrown my way.

Unfortunately driving skill is determined by how many accidents someone has, what is not recorded is how many accidents a particular person has avoided.

I watched the race on TV, like D said, that crash could have happened to anyone that day, unfortunately Tomizawa had two guys hot on his tail, which is what made the accident fatal. His skill has absolutely nothing to do why the crash was fatal, it was the conditions of racing.

I cant see how THIS paticular crash could change anybodies riding, I see this going in the same direction as the BS going on right now about Peter Lenz being too young. It is part of the sport/hobby/job we choose. It is dangerous and can be fatal, both on the street and the track, we know this but we cant let it stop us from doing what we love to do.


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And NO it has not affected my riding, cause changing riding habits will not have made that paticular accident not happen. It was not about riding style, it was about the situation. The only thing this should change about street riding is someone saying, "maybe when i ride in a group of friends we should give each other a little more space so if one of us goes down we wont take out the rest of the group."

If an accident like this makes you think about your riding style or habits, whether right or wrong, then maybe a motorcycle isnt for you.


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It is dangerous and can be fatal, both on the street and the track, we know this but we cant let it stop us from doing what we love to do.
Instead, we use it to get our heads down behind the bubble, twist the throttle open even more, and ride our hearts out in their memory.
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I am not trying to point out Tomizawa's skill. I am trying to say this, will his death on a motocycle motivate a person to change their skills on a motorcycle in the streets?

Did his death make you change your riding skills? That is what I am trying to ask. I am not saying that his leaning skills resulted a crash, I am asking if the crash affected you.
i also find this thread of terribly bad taste and disrespect.

you should have this thread deleted and re-think your damn idea on how things affect people. like, your thread pissed me off cause your lack of compassion for a deceased rider.

but to me it sounds like you need to take more psychology and psychotherapy classes.

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Instead, we use it to get our heads down behind the bubble, twist the throttle open even more, and ride our hearts out in their memory.




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i fail to see how this crash has any thing to do with rider skill ....

its like going down in a blind corner because you didnt see sand, and then getting run over by a truck

instead he went a little wide, fell, and got hit by bikes...

im sorry for his family ...
but this question doesnt relate to any thing, it was a freak accident,.


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