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n e one ever get a speeding ticket while using radar detector???

i wanna know if you have ever got busted for speeding while using a radar detector? what kind? situation?
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my old roommate did and i did. music was up loud so i didn't hear it. he actually got busted with it on in VA (illegal) and our detectors were supposed to be undetectable but the cop showed him the vg-2 detector the cop had and it was going wild while ours was on.




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I have in my car. Cops know how to outsmart them when they want to, so R.D.'s are not that effective anymore. Around here all the cops use laser, even with a laser detector it doesn't go off until they have already read your speed. Also cops will wait for you to get close before they flip on the radar so you don't have enough time to slow down before they can get a reading. If your in the market for one my advice would be to STFD because it is inevitable you will eventually get a ticket if you are a speedoholic. Buy a decent radar detector ($80.00-$150.00 range) as they all do the same thing and the more expensive ones just have usless features. Or if you are really serious get a radar/laser jammer these are big $$ and if a cop still wants to give you a ticket he can just by visual determination.
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only advantage i see with radar is if you're speeding with other cars, you can pick up the residual radar noise and it can give you some warning. if you're alone, the cop will be smart enough to just turn on the radar when he sees you, then you're toast.




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I had several. They do no good when you come around a corner and the cop pulls the trigger. The red leds get pegged and you know your busted.

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i had one like 8-9 yrs ago (bell?) and hated it. it always falsed and got me jumpy. after a year w/ it i ditched it and have since relied on my eyes and knowing the pd activity in my area.

around here cops aren't very creative, so they find a spot and kinda stick to it. most of em are too lazy to get out of their cars and zap you before you pass them (except this one guy on 270, and another guy at 40/141, they're both friggin evil). so i speed just about everywhere i go (cept residential), 10+ on the bike and 15-20+ in the car, and get m/b 1 ticket a year.

course, i'm prolly jinxed now :)
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i have in my car. i've seen many cops clockin me too & my radar didn't even go off, POS radar detector....
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Never got a ticket when I had my detector. It always warned me. It falsed in some areas, like passing some gas stations (don't know why). I'm gonna go off when I find the SOB that stole my S*it.
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I don't want to say anything about my never having gotten a ticket....crap I've said too much.

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RADAR detectors are a waste of money IMO. RADAR units are equiped with an on/off button that allows the user to shut the unit down when not tracking a vehicle. Working one evening I was behind a car that had a detector mounted up by his rear view mirror. I switched the toggle on and it took a full 3 seconds for his detector to go off, and this was when I was right behind him. The second the operator takes the RADAR unit off "hold" the reading is almost immediate.

The only way the unit will become effective is if you are traveling in groups larger than three. Todays RADAR units have the ability to track a second vehicle traveling in the same direction (using conventional doppler RADAR, laser or LADAR has "gun" sights). The only way that works is if the lead vehicle is traveling slower than the closing vehicle behind it. The RADAR unit will display the lead vehicle and speed of the closing vehicle (This is how the operator can tell the difference if the speeding vehicle was the one in front or behind, elliminating chance of error).

If you have any more questions feel free to ask, I used to be a certified instructor.
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Never got a ticket when I had my detector. It always warned me. It falsed in some areas, like passing some gas stations (don't know why). I'm gonna go off when I find the SOB that stole my S*it.
You got false readings because the motion sensors on automatic doors (like at grocery and convenience stores) broadcast on the same frequency as radar detectors. That's why you were picking up erroneous signals.
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i always got tickets when i had my radar detector... if you're going 100 ... and slow down once you hear it go off.. you'll still get clocked for like 85 ish... likewise at lower speeds. i've gotten far less tickets without it

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If you have any more questions feel free to ask, I used to be a certified instructor.
1) what is the general % error on avg newer and older guns?

2) are officers supposed to hold the radar data when giving you a ticket? i got a bs ticket from a cop, wasn't speeding, and he told me they didnt have to be able to show it to me :(
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1) what is the general % error on avg newer and older guns?

2) are officers supposed to hold the radar data when giving you a ticket? i got a bs ticket from a cop, wasn't speeding, and he told me they didnt have to be able to show it to me :(
1.) Newer guns within the last 5-10 years, nothing that would make a difference to you or the operator. The RADAR gun is worthless with out the operator. When errors do occur it's blantanly obvious. In order for me to certify someone that individual had to correctly guestimate a vehicles speed within +/- 3mph for 10 consecutive vehicles. If I saw a vehicle traveling towards me and I believe he is doing 55MPH, and the RADAR reads 65 MPH I CAN NOT pull this vehicle over for speeding. The RADAR unit emits a noise that corresponds with the tracking speed. The higher the speed the higher the pitch. If the speed reads 35 MPH and the pitch is extrememly high, than there is mis-read, and the process must start over.

step 1- guestimation of speed
step 2- verify guestimation with RADAR unit
step 3- verify pitch with RADAR display reading

If any of these steps are not verified the process must start over. I have pulled people over and felt that there may have been an error in one of the above steps and I would refuse to issue a citation (which is the way it's supposed to be).

2.) This is really up to the state. I did not have to show the RADAR reading to the offender. A lot of it has to do with saftey issues. If it was safe enough I would allow a person to read the RADAR unit and test it in front of them. I did not have to lock the offenders speed in to make a stop. I was only required to observe the speed of the offender. This really varies from state to state, and I would check your local laws on this.

This has kinda turned into a novel, so if you have any other specifics you would like answered please let me know (this stuff gets boring really damn fast) :D
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i got nailed in december this past year doin 31 over in my truck, detector went off, but it was too late. i didn't even bother turning it off so when the cop came up he asked me why it still said "caution" on it. i just kinda smiled and said it was telling me to be careful when speeding. 6 mo license suspension, $200 something fine and 6 points on my license. needless to say i went to court and left there with only a $225 fine, no points, no revo and i was free to go. talk about lucky!!!
ps it pays to know people and have some idea how the legal system works, be cool with the cop and sometimes they're cool back!!
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had an escort passport (supposed 2 be a good one), well the only time i got a ticket was on the interstate, came up over a hill, trooper was sitting there, then radar went off but it was way 2 late, so i guess i really can't blame the radar, but cops are finding ways to pull you over even if you do own one

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If you are traveling alone (no other cars around) the LEO will have you locked on RADAR before your detector ever goes off.
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If you are traveling alone (no other cars around) the LEO will have you locked on RADAR before your detector ever goes off.




Sometimes with my escort x50 I have picked up radar from like 4 miles away. I can also tell when there is a radar around corners before the LEO even knows I'm there. For instance I was going 100+ down the Hwy 1 below SF and was going up a slight hill when the detector went off. About two miles away, down hill on the other side of the road was a CHP tucked up a back road. Luckily I didn't fly bye him at 100mph.

I have a constant 2 mile buffer behind me when ever a CHP comes up from behind w/ radar on. The second one rolls up behind me with the radar on I can tell. Its way different than if your coming up on one.

When I'm on the RR going south on Hwy 1 towards Big Sur at about 80 mph, I have about 5+ seconds after my ear bud goes off, before the CHP will pass me in the opposite direction around a blind corner. So before they lock onto me I have decreased my speed. Because the radar shoots out to the apex of the turn in front of the CHP, and my radar detector shoots out to the apex in front of me, which creates a buffer zone where the CHP doesn't know that I'm there, but I know that he is.

A constant scan of the area incase there is a CHP w/ radar off and the fact that they only use Ka and no Laser helps prevent tickets. Before the radar detector I used to get all kinds of tickets. Now, with the escort x50 I get virtually none. Most of the time I don't speed but it is nice to know when a CHP is around incase I need to roll down my tinted windows (illegal in Ca.) Sometimes the detector will go off even when it's stuffed in my glove box!

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Sometimes with my escort x50 I have picked up radar from like 4 miles away. I can also tell when there is a radar around corners before the LEO even knows I'm there. For instance I was going 100+ down the Hwy 1 below SF and was going up a slight hill when the detector went off. About two miles away, down hill on the other side of the road was a CHP tucked up a back road. Luckily I didn't fly bye him at 100mph.

I have a constant 2 mile buffer behind me when ever a CHP comes up from behind w/ radar on. The second one rolls up behind me with the radar on I can tell. Its way different than if your coming up on one.

When I'm on the RR going south on Hwy 1 towards Big Sur at about 80 mph, I have about 5+ seconds after my ear bud goes off, before the CHP will pass me in the opposite direction around a blind corner. So before they lock onto me I have decreased my speed. Because the radar shoots out to the apex of the turn in front of the CHP, and my radar detector shoots out to the apex in front of me, which creates a buffer zone where the CHP doesn't know that I'm there, but I know that he is.

A constant scan of the area incase there is a CHP w/ radar off and the fact that they only use Ka and no Laser helps prevent tickets. Before the radar detector I used to get all kinds of tickets. Now, with the escort x50 I get virtually none. Most of the time I don't speed but it is nice to know when a CHP is around incase I need to roll down my tinted windows (illegal in Ca.) Sometimes the detector will go off even when it's stuffed in my glove box!

Very good post and I agree.

However, the last 2 tickets I got one was PACING (traffic school) and the other was an airplane (which I think I can beat).
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I've only gotten a ticket once with the radar working. My V1 doesn't have POP (I've gotta upgrade), so the cop POPed me, the detector showed some weak signal and I got pulled over. In a car.
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