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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-23-2005, 07:30 AM Thread Starter
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Helmet poll: Are They All the Same

we all know we pay for graphics but lets settle this:

is a $150 Snell/DOT HJC as good as a [non replica] Shoei X-11? What are you gonna wreck in?
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It's not quite that simple. If you're referring to crash protection, then yes, they're all basically the same as long as they are Snell/DOT approved. But if you're looking at creature comforts some are better than others. Shop around.

For the record I have an HJC AC-11 and love it.


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Shoei RF-1000 nuff' said
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Not enough bottons. I have an AC-11 because it was the best fit. I would have bought something different but looks/creature comforts are not as important as protection.

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Not enough bottons. I have an AC-11 because it was the best fit. I would have bought something different but looks/creature comforts are not as important as protection.
Ok, but why not have both. The Shoei and Arai lines offer the best "looks/creature comforts" as well as the protection. My HJC was good/OK, but I loved my Arai RX7, and my new Shoei is an 11 on a scale of 1-10. The HJC was about a 5.
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The x-11 is much lighter and has more vents. It also comes with a nose guard and chin cover. The graphics are equal. I also own the HJC (heald up great in a crash)and I'd say the major advantages of the x-11 are the weight difference and chin cover. A heavy helmet sucks and a frozen chin does too...
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I believe the HJC is as good as other helmets in a wreck as long as it meets the Snell/DOT requirements. I think the one thing that determines price is construction material and "options". Another big factor is the "name brand". But then again I am no expert.
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Shoei RF-1000 nuff' said
Period. You pay for what you get....
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My X-11 fit like no other. The way it secures my head, the way it looks and feels totally convinced me to shell out the extra cash...especially compared to the HJC's.

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Shoei RF-1000 nuff' said

I agree about the Shoei. I have a RF-1000 and a RF-900 (as well as a cheap HJC for passengers). That being said, everyones head is different, and some peoples heads wont be right for a Shoei. If I were buying a Helmet, I would go with either an ARAI or Shoei, and I would definitely try the one I was buying on first.

I'm considering the Duhamel Replica from Shark for my next helmet, but I have yet to try a Shark on so I may not like it. I hear they are tight around the forehead for some people, so who knows. I hope its nice, those Duhamel Replica's look sweet!

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shoei RF 1000 here as well.




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No-one is disagreeing that the more expensive the helmet, the safer it is. All the opinions on this thread have leaned towards the fit, finish, comfort, options, and ergonomics of the more expensive helmets. My Arai was the best quality I have ever seen in a manufacturer when I bought it in 2000. Then, when I sold my bike, and my Arai went with it, I started looking at other manufacturers for a replacement. I went with the HJC when I bought my RR because the price was right, it fit well (not as well as the Arai, or Shoei that I have now), and it was DOT certified. I was happy with it for it's intended purpose. But the entire time I had my HJC, I yearned for the Shoei RF-1000. It fit like a glove, offerred better range of motion than the CL-14, and of course was more aesthetically pleasing. If it comes down to it, and you have the means to get it, get what you want/what fits best. If that is a Shoei, Arai, AGV then great. If that is a Scorpion, HJC, Nolan, Bell, that's great to. Buy it to fit your budget, and your head. I don't think there is a helmet made from a major MFR. that isn't certified to DOT/Snell/CE standards.
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rf-1000 duhamel rep. i like it lots better than my hjc cl-14 due to reasons stated above. also i got it from a member from this board so the price was also right...

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When i bought my RR it came with a HJC CL-14 nice helmet cool graphics. allthough it was the right size it didn't fit me quite right. it felt big, like i was a bobble-head. this past summer i bought an Arai corsair Rx-7 and there's just no comparison to it. fits like a glove is much lighter and the overall quality is much better. i still have the HJC. i totally would trust it in a crash. but as far as quality and finish i think u get what u pay for.
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I believe snell/dot are minimum safety guidelines but there are a few factors which will affect how well the helmet will protect you over and above those guidelines. Was it sport rider mag that did an independant test of many of the helmets with surprising results when comparing whether more expensive helmets protected better or not? I didn't have the opportunity to read the article but did see some of the reader responses which praised the mag for posting the controversial results despite the potential and actual loss of some of the helmet manufacturers investment into the mag. I bought my helmet after researching on crash performance and fit for my head type but I had not actually tried the style on. I ordered online but lucked out on fit. I also had the opportunity to crash test my first one and i'm here to tell about it. I ended up buying the same helmet again.


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i have HJC helmet, a CL14 & FG14, i like the FG14 better in fit & style you can put it side by side with a high-end helmet like RX7RR or X11 & you don't get embarrased. it's also ECE22-05 certified.


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shoei rf1000 and z-II for me
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a fullmer is nowhere the same as an arai or such helmets

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night and day between my old HJC and my new Suomy!
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I only wear HJC helmets, I have them for dirt and street and they have always been great!!! they are snell/dot approved, they are a reasonable cost, good protection, good ventilation, good styles etc. I just don't see the point in paying any more than $200 for a helmet, after that it is basically about letting everyone see what brand is on the helmet in my opinion. oh and I am currently wearing an HJC CS-12 Format but am looking to upgrade to a CL-14 Fuse or other HJC higher end helmet.

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As far as safety goes, I believe all helmets like all different brands of gear do their job--protect. So, if that's all you care about then almost any helmet out there will suit you fine.

But if you're anything like me--noise level, ventilation, and cool factor is of importance--then I'd have to say Shoei X-Eleven.

I had an ARAI and it was so loud, I couldn't concentrate or hear myself think "lean, lean some more, counter-steer"...hahaha
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rf-1000 is the best loot i ever spent light awsome feeling and built well
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Just switched from an HJC to a SHOEI and the difference is huge.

All in the comfort area..... ventilation air flow is outstanding on the shoei and non-existent onm the HJC, Shoei is noticably lighter and more stable at speed.

Comfort equals safety in some aspects but the bash factor is equal. You go down hard and either will save your cranium.
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