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Are You a Power Shifter?

Do you perform clutchless shifting?

Feel free to talk about technique, why you don't do it, etc.

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Always on the race bike, sometimes on the street bike (just up, not down) but its taking a toll on my clutch so i've cut down

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definately going up. clutch down.
i dont feel right not doing it, thats the way i learned since day one

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Always on the race bike, sometimes on the street bike (just up, not down) but its taking a toll on my clutch so i've cut down
. . .but you're clutchless while powershifting. If you're hurting anything, it would be your gearbox. Power shifting, if done correctly, won't harm your gearbox. Using your clutch hurts your clutch more. . .if that makes any sense to you.
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I voted "sometimes", but I'll qualify that vote by saying that I'll shift up and down w/o using the lever when I need to or when I've got it wrung out climbing in speed. I won't go into clutch disengagment theory, but there are points at speed where pulling the lever quickly and simply timing your shift are, for all intentions and purposes, nearly identical.
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. . .but you're clutchless while powershifting. If you're hurting anything, it would be your gearbox. Power shifting, if done correctly, won't harm your gearbox. Using your clutch hurts your clutch more. . .if that makes any sense to you.
How about:

"Using your clutch wears your clutch more..."
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How about:

"Using your clutch wears your clutch more..."
Yes selector. . .much better wording. I took chkaotic's "taking a toll" literally as "hurting" the clutch. ---Thanks!!

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. . .but you're clutchless while powershifting. If you're hurting anything, it would be your gearbox. Power shifting, if done correctly, won't harm your gearbox. Using your clutch hurts your clutch more. . .if that makes any sense to you.
Oops I said clutch huh.. didnt mean that in that sense, it was just what came to mind.. since I started powershifting, I've had the bike slip into a false neutral in 4th-6th gear several times, so i attribute it to that.. didnt mean the clutch :)

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Yes selector. . .much better wording. I took chkaotic's "taking a toll" literally as "hurting" the clutch. ---Thanks!!
Sounds like we all meant the same thing - just missunderstood one another. Ahhhh... the internet! Now LET'S RIDE!!!!! <revs the bike and pops the clutch for a big burn out - road warrior style!>
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It's a good tool for when I'm doing sit down wheelies. Use the torque in first to get it up and then pop her in second so there's more rpms to play with.
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For normal street riding I use it occasionally. For high spirited riding I use it a lot. It's really not too pratical for low rpm shifting as it feels jerky if not done perfectly. But when I'm running the bike hard as hell it's very easy to upshift and much smoother and faster.

PS The GP shifting makes it even easier. Just slight pressure on the shifter and a blip of the throttle is all it takes.


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I always upshift without the clutch on the track, however I always close the throttle momentarily as I upshift. Downshifting I always clutch.

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whats power shifting..j/k. i only own a race bike so it gets whipped all summer long
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I always upshift without the clutch on the track, however I always close the throttle momentarily as I upshift.
Exactly as it should be done.
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