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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 07-28-2006, 04:41 PM Thread Starter
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I'm going to be picking up a set of Pazzo levers and I was wondering what everyone recommends in terms of their length and why. What do the racers typically use and why?
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I get along just fine with the stock levers.

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I love my pazzo shorties.
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I get along just fine with the stock levers.
That's great!
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Ya if I had the chance to do it all over I'd do the long clutch, short brake.
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I was thinking about short clutch, long brake. ALthough i am always using 2 fingers on both brake and clutch now-a-days. Maybe ill go double shorties.

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I have the Shorty Clutch and Brake Pazzo Levers and love them and now always use two fingers to brake and shift. I love it. much better then stock!

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stock is fine for operation. however for racing applications, they have 2 downsides due to length.

1. sticking out past the bars, if you go down, they will brake, possible ending your race with an easy lowside otherwise recoverable. to avoid that some drill holes near the end, so only the tip will break off.

2. safety - gettig bumped in traffic can seriously kill you. look at Gibernou endoing at the start - his front brake lever was hit from the front by capirossi and it went to full on. another guys brake lever was broke off from behind, and he discovered it when he had no front brake in T1.

crazy at it may seem, i am looking for shorties mainly to have one less thing to worry about, esp on starts when i have been bumped on more than one occasion. when they say to stick your elbows out on the start I know why!
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This is one of the most under-rated mods. I love my levers - both shorties!
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Pazzo shorties (both) love the feeling.

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mmmm..... shorties!


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Ya if I had the chance to do it all over I'd do the long clutch, short brake.
CV, can you tell me the reasoning? Just curious.
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Because when you hold the clutch all the way in, you hold it against the bar (stop light, coasting into a turn, starting, etc.) There isn't enough room on the bar to have the shortie pulled in with two fingers and to keep two fingers on the bar. The shortie lever ends up crushing the two fingers. Also, when I pull the clutch in (especially all the way in) I want to have 3 maybe 4 fingers on the lever. Shorties allow for 2-1/2 maybe three fingers on the lever. You might as well use the 4 fingers for leverage, especially when on long rides when your hands will get tired. The same leverage theory applies to the brake and that's why you hardly ever see a short brake lever on a race bike. Braking into a turn requires a lot more pressure when racing, the brake fluid gets hot, and the speeds are up there.

CRG GP folding brake lever is only available in long:
http://www.constructorsrg.com/produc...gp_remote.html
The clutch perch lever is only avaliable in long too:
http://www.constructorsrg.com/produc...gp_clutch.html

That said, I never really had any problems at the track with my short levers. And two finger clutching does feel good for quick shifts, but like I said in the clutchless shifting post, it has become more second nature to me to shift between the gears 3-6 without touching the clutch. Hope this helps!
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dbl shorties here CRG...
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black w/black tab pazzo shorties is the way i went
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How about some short, shorts and save $100????





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Thanks everyone for the information and thanks CV for the explaination. Since I may eventually track the bike, I wanted to get some reasoning from track riders. I got what I needed.
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So, what combo did you end up going with?
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I ended up going with the double shorties. Fortunately/unfortunately (depending on your perspective) I don't have Tony Robbins banana hands, so I should be fine with the shorties. I tend to two finger clutch and brake anyway and I don't pull the clutch to the bar.

I'll let you know how I like them
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Which one of our sponsors/distributors is the guy to call about getting some levers? I was looking for some CRG levers.
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Which one of our sponsors/distributors is the guy to call about getting some levers? I was looking for some CRG levers.
Call either one and ask them for a 600rr.net discount.

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i like short clutch and brake
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I run stock now, but if i were to replace them I'd run a short clutch and standard brake. I don't know if you can get three fingers on the short brake. I tend to use three finger braking on the track, especially in long races. The clutch usually takes less pressure and you're using it a lot less so two fingers are plenty.

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You might want to consider modifying your design, all the racing associations that I know require a ball on the end of the levers.

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pazzo black w/ red tab shorties here, im used to short levers from my mtb
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hessogood-Kinda going for the biker that doesn't have $150 to fork out for short levers... I would do it, but it would cost more in the end, I would guess about $100... Sponsor for what??? Racing or stunting??




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The Pazzo shortiesd arrived in the mail today and I am going to get them on the bike. They recommend greasing the pivot. What kind of grease would you recommend using? Lithium?
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They're on the bike and I love them. The clutch feel is som much better and they look great also.
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hessogood-Kinda going for the biker that doesn't have $150 to fork out for short levers... I would do it, but it would cost more in the end, I would guess about $100... Sponsor for what??? Racing or stunting??

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