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Clarkson did something or another and pissed off the BBC brass. He's been suspended and the remaining episodes of this season pulled form the line up. A few stories here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/wo...ings.html?_r=0

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...-catering.html

Don't know how true the whole punching deal is though since officials are all hush-hush at this point.
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I've seen commercials but never watched so I guess my post is invalid. I'm a dork too but I like their stupid tacky humor and when they open their doors on each other's cars

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I love the show... But they went a little too far on some episodes.

Even puting international relations at risk in some cases.



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Almost half a million people have signed an online petition to get Clarkeson reinstated. #bringbackckarkeson is trending on Twitter too.

Top gear is one of the bbc's most lucrative shows and the current format can't work without JC. My bet is they want to sack him and its a very real possibility but if the accountants get involved he'll be back soon enough on his final final warning (after the debacle in Argentina & the racist remarks of last year).

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You can hardly call an angry mob over a license plate a risk to international relations. How it's been handled after the fact is another story though.

On a related note, I'm secretly hoping that if BBC does pull Top Gear, those guys reassemble anyway on another network doing a show with a similar format. Top Gear without Clarkson will be like ramen without the noodles.

dkid, you've got a point there. Clarkson's not new to controversy and trouble with the BBC execs.
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Personally I don't think the demise of top gear would be the worst thing in the world. I loved the show in the early days of its current format but the last two or three series have tried too hard to replicate the previous success based mostly around three presenters and the incompetence and tomfoolery that ensued.

Lately the funny bits that made the show likeable now feel too staged imo. When I thought the accidents were just that, accidents, it was much funnier.

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It'd still be a shame if it gets pulled. Top gear US is a joke in comparison and 5th gear is neat but pretty dry in comparison. I think Russia and Australia tried their versions of top gear but I haven't followed up on either.
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Maybe, but it's always better to go out on top while people still like you rather than carrying on too long and people ending up sick to death of you. I just feel they're milking it for all its worth now and that the majority of good ideas have been done.

Also, there's the presenters age. Funny as it sounds I don't think anyone can take a senior citizen driving a pagani zonda going sideways around a corner in clouds of smoke seriously lol. They can't do it forever.

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It seems Clarkeson isn't taking this too seriously lol. Jeremy Clarkson jokes about suspension as petition tops 400,000
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31839677

Something tells me that he'd prefer to go out in a blaze of notoriety rather than fade into the background.

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They have 350 million viewers worldwide, they'll be back.
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Not a bad way to go if that's his intention. Kinda screws up May and Hammond though. Unless they're in on it :) As to somebody that looks like he needs to be on life support getting a Zonda sideways in a cloud of smoke, it's far more entertaining to watch than say anybody a third of his age doing the same to me.
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I have the feeling that all this is part of the campaign...



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May & Hammond have had their own stuff going on the side for a while now but I see your point, TG is their main project.

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I have the feeling that all this is part of the campaign...
You could be right but it's not like they need the publicity. Plus, Clarkesons previous misdemeanours have done more harm than good. That old saying "any publicity is good publicity" doesn't apply to racism.

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I love the show... But they went a little too far on some episodes.

Even puting international relations at risk in some cases.
If a British comedian can have such a significant impact on "relations" how strong were they anyway?




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Personally I don't think the demise of top gear would be the worst thing in the world. I loved the show in the early days of its current format but the last two or three series have tried too hard to replicate the previous success based mostly around three presenters and the incompetence and tomfoolery that ensued.

Lately the funny bits that made the show likeable now feel too staged imo. When I thought the accidents were just that, accidents, it was much funnier.
Because they sold the show (somehow) to the BBC or something for a lot...the leash is now tighter.




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May & Hammond have had their own stuff going on the side for a while now but I see your point, TG is their main project.



You could be right but it's not like they need the publicity. Plus, Clarkesons previous misdemeanours have done more harm than good. That old saying "any publicity is good publicity" doesn't apply to racism.
I guess you're right...no one has a sense of humor anymore...



Also I should add I have no clue what this scandal is about but if you're pushing the line you're definitely not being funny unless your repertoire consists only of fart jokes...

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This scandal isn't about anything that the shows presenter has done in the public domain. It's about an off camera argument with one of the shows producers over catering arrangements. The producer was allegedly punched by Clarkson who has been suspended pending an investigation.

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This scandal isn't about anything that the shows presenter has done in the public domain. It's about an off camera argument with one of the shows producers over catering arrangements. The producer was allegedly punched by Clarkson who has been suspended pending an investigation.
didn't he punch pierce morgan or someone a while back also, or was that someone else...also if he's not on the clock, who's business is it but his and whomever else was involved?

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I think he's had a long running feud with Piers Morgan but not sure if he decked him...

The BBC is unique in that it's publicly funded. As such the employees are held up to much higher scrutiny than other tv personalities. Kind of like politicians etc.

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Publicly funded... So that's what Clarkson was referring to when he kept on about how BBC is "uniquely funded". Couple of seasons late to make that connection.

And even if it wasn't publicly funded, because the presenters are huge public figures, and have close ties with BBC, anything they do is reflected on BBC. On camera/clock or off.
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Yup. The BBC is funded by the public via the UK tv licence. Basically you are not allowed to watch tv in the UK without a tv licence by law. You will be prosecuted if you are caught watching tv without a licence. All the money raised goes to funding the BBC. There are no commercials on BBC channels (tv & radio).

It's crazy but even if you decide not to watch any BBC channels and you purely view commercial tv stations, you must still pay the licence fee.

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I think he's had a long running feud with Piers Morgan but not sure if he decked him...

The BBC is unique in that it's publicly funded. As such the employees are held up to much higher scrutiny than other tv personalities. Kind of like politicians etc.
You must have some high quality politicians, mine seem to basically do whatever the hell they want and get away with murder...almost literally.

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You must have some high quality politicians, mine seem to basically do whatever the hell they want and get away with murder...almost literally.

lol, yeah unfortunately ours are a law unto themselves as well. At least if we don't like our politicians we can vote for the other guy. There's no Democracy when it comes to the BBC. We must bankroll them if we want to watch any tv at all.

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lol, yeah unfortunately ours are a law unto themselves as well. At least if we don't like our politicians we can vote for the other guy. There's no Democracy when it comes to the BBC. We must bankroll them if we want to watch any tv at all.
I'm quoting Lewis Black on this but it's becoming the standard instead of being an exception: "when you go into that booth you have a choice between two bowls of sh1t...the only difference is the smell."

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Sorry, I'm a bittersweet $100 richer today after Clinton's "e-mailgate" (that's just what I'm calling it & the bet was proven this morning)...makes me miss the days of a fvckin blow-job being the level of scandalousness.

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You guys remember the episode where they all came over here and drove though Alabama? Cant remember what they had written on the sides of the cars but they stopped for gas and just about got a whooping from the locals.
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Yup. The BBC is funded by the public via the UK tv licence. Basically you are not allowed to watch tv in the UK without a tv licence by law. You will be prosecuted if you are caught watching tv without a licence. All the money raised goes to funding the BBC. There are no commercials on BBC channels (tv & radio).

It's crazy but even if you decide not to watch any BBC channels and you purely view commercial tv stations, you must still pay the licence fee.
So you pay the cable company, which gives you some bulk of channels plus BBC. And you have to pay the license fee over top of the cable bill? Just to feed my own curiosity, how much is the fee?
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Yeah cable tv is a totally separate charge paid to a private company. The current rate for the annual tv licence is 145 ($215).

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You guys remember the episode where they all came over here and drove though Alabama? Cant remember what they had written on the sides of the cars but they stopped for gas and just about got a whooping from the locals.
It's to the tune of "Hillary for prez", "NASCAR is Rubbish" and some man-love bits. Those guys have some serious balls.
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