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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-12-2015, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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So, who do you blame when foreign governments hack into our sensitive data? I blame the people protecting our data.
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So, who do you blame when foreign governments hack into our sensitive data? I blame the people protecting our data.
As an IT in the Navy, I would definitely have to agree. People become complacent and start getting lazy doing system patches and etc. I would also add in espionage.
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True.. "good fences make good neighbors"..gotta add a little barbedwire to our cyber security.
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Pretty loaded question, Randy.

I find it slightly different. I see it as an act of aggression.

It's like saying you were at fault for getting your bike stolen because you didn't take enough security measures. And this type of thinking is pretty popular amongst millennials. It shifts the blame out of context.

We could also go back and forth with who threw the first stone, but that will get us nowhere.

No, the way I see it, the aggressors should be found and punished accordingly. And the security infrastructure should be tightened. No doubt. I just don't see the aggressors as the innocent, and the receivers the guilty.

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Since I do this stuff for a living, I have a real world view. We spend a LOT of money protecting ourselves. I was the lead engineer at Experian before resigning to move to Austin. We did a lot of data breaches, including the VA when the laptop went missing with all that data on it.

If you look at firewall/IPS logs, you can see certain patterns. Scans/attacks happen 24/7. Even though we are always finding new exploits, and the attackers are always one step ahead, MOST of the time the victim missed something, and left a hole unplugged. It could be a vendor account that wasn't disabled, or an alert from their IPS (intrusion protection) that was ignored.

I don't feel it's a loaded question at all, or a way to try to shift the blame. The person doing to attack should always be held accountable, but the victim needs to stand up and take the hit for not being as good as they should have been.
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On point. I agree with you 100%. Looking back at the initial post, I can see how it gets a bit blurred. If the government is not taking some of the blame, then they're not being accountable.

I remember you talking about your job a few times (venting actually, lol) and knew that you were a comp guy. Didn't know you were the lead engineer with Experian before, though. You're definitely accomplished, Randy.

A hunting/drinking buddy does security for our Secretary of State. I guarantee you he puts a lot of blame on his side of the court if things go awry. But that's just one person.

Admittedly, I know absolutely nothing about securities. I'm oilfield, brotha.. I'm lucky if I know how to turn these things on.

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