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2015 R1 transmission recall...

I hope this is some kind of late April fools scenario...
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wow, you'd think that yamaha would be doing everything in their power not to revisit their transmission woes of 15 years ago
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Never biy the first year of a revised model or a new model..

These all come to mind im sure theres many more im missing

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interesting, did you get that in the mail Ven?
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interesting, did you get that in the mail Ven?
Not mine.... Someone from the r1 forum. Everyone there in a state of denial.
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Never biy the first year of a revised model or a new model..

These all come to mind im sure theres many more im missing

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What about the 07 cbr600rr?

Just teasing, it doesn't apply to all however it is still a good idea to not automatically jump on a newly revised or brand new model automobile.

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2015 R1/M Transmission Recall - Yamaha R1 Forum: YZF-R1 Forums

Supposedly Yamaha will be making a public announcement next week.

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Everyone there in a state of denial.
Hahah I saw it on the r1 forum about an hour ago its hilarious they're like no not my yamaha.

It could be a fake too. Who knows...

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No wonder Honda rides out and stretches the model designs for as long as they do...

With respect though, I do hope this gets resolved for the affected R1 owners.

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The '08 1000RR bit me hard, and Honda refused to fix it.
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The '08 1000RR bit me hard, and Honda refused to fix it.
If it was still under warranty, I wonder what reason they gave to refuse...?

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Wow. I know 4 people personally with 2015 R1's, and haven't heard about this problem yet?

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Wow. I know 4 people personally with 2015 R1's, and haven't heard about this problem yet?
They're too embarrassed to tell you

Should of bought Hondas
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If it was still under warranty, I wonder what reason they gave to refuse...?
The dealer had to send in a video of the bike at8K RPM. They had to see a certain amount of smoke, mine didn't have what they wanted.

It was burning a quart of oil every 700 street miles, and by lunch at the track. I never owned a bike that burned any oil, let alone that much. I haven't owned a Honda street bike since they screwed me.
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Should of bought Hondas
Yep, eight year old tech is much safer.

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The dealer had to send in a video of the bike at8K RPM. They had to see a certain amount of smoke, mine didn't have what they wanted.



It was burning a quart of oil every 700 street miles, and by lunch at the track. I never owned a bike that burned any oil, let alone that much. I haven't owned a Honda street bike since they screwed me.

That's some bull****. I've heard Honda is a bitch about warranty situations but I didn't know it was that bad.


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They're too embarrassed to tell you

Should of bought Hondas
This topic just came out today and not everyone is on a bike specific forum, so chances are not all the 2015 R1 owners will know this all at the same time.


Theres a reason why 08+1000rr doesnt have oil glass inspection window. ...so have your fingers cross that the new model will come with one otherwise expect dipstics for oil check. Not just oil burn, honda also have problem with the "supercharge" noise from the 08-10 model and just today I also spot it on my buddies '12.


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Spoke to our local Yamaha dealer here. They said: This is for US models. No recall for Australian models has been brought to our attention.

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They're too embarrassed to tell you

Should of bought Hondas
Hate to be the one to say this dude but Honda isn't an exception anymore. BMW had an issue with the connecting rods on early S1000RR's, Porsche still doesn't admit this but the main seal on every model (except the Cayenne IIRC) would go after 20-30k mi...nowadays sh1t is built by accountants to hit price points, not engineers to break records.

I had a CBR250R for just 5 months...for a reason,

My CBR600RR originally had an issue with the exhaust valve causing an FI light and the bike going into limp mode; dealer wouldn't replace the header section, yet replaced the servo motor twice; eventually I got a servobuddy, full exhaust instead of the planned slip-on, and tuned it.

My old '12 Civic Si was a brand new piece of absolute sh1t so if anyone questions the negative reviews it received here's my answer; that wasn't even built by accountants, it was "assembled" by interns in the accountant department...it had the CRV's 2.4L I4, 6 speed from a TSX IIRC, and an interior from what felt like a knockoff Lego set...I'm guessing all the real R&D went into that stupid i-MID thing; 3 ways to inform the fuel level but no coolant temp gauge, tires were $800 and might, might, get 20k mi. per set, the oil was a special $100 blend only available through Honda (at least then) every 3k mi, and using any other would void the warranty...the TC was dim witted at best, blind spots were horrendous, road noise was like a vintage beetle and for those that haven't driven one, put a cooking pot over your head like a helmet and bang it with random crap...and after properly positioning the seat the top of the steering wheel blocked my view of the speedometer...also the weight distribution may literally have been worse than an old school beetle...the understeer still haunts me.

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The dealer had to send in a video of the bike at8K RPM. They had to see a certain amount of smoke, mine didn't have what they wanted.

It was burning a quart of oil every 700 street miles, and by lunch at the track. I never owned a bike that burned any oil, let alone that much. I haven't owned a Honda street bike since they screwed me.
That's a lot...the consensus on that issue was the cylinder head right?




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Yep, eight year old tech is much safer.

*ghey*
+1...imo there's no rule of thumb anymore; I had an '05 Subaru Legacy that was awesome and also the 1st year of a new generation.

The 1st gen NSX is good imo, as is the RSX type-s, and imo I liked the AP1 S2000's better.




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I took in the Si in once for something that was under warranty and the guy literally said to me "it's just a Civic"

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That's a lot...the consensus on that issue was the cylinder head right?
Oil control ring.
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Oil control ring.
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Porsche still doesn't admit this but the main seal on every model (except the Cayenne IIRC) would go after 20-30k mi..
I've gone threw about 400 out them here at our dealership now, all used from under 1000 miles to 125,000 miles and all models [986's, 987's, 993's, 996's, 997's, 991's, cayennes, panameras etc.] and I've had a rear main seal issue exactly once in all the buyers inspections ever done. I don't think its an issue.

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3 out of 4 are yamaha. Sounds like stay away from yamaha first models


I've gone threw about 400 out them here at our dealership now, all used from under 1000 miles to 125,000 miles and all models [986's, 987's, 993's, 996's, 997's, 991's, cayennes, panameras etc.] and I've had a rear main seal issue exactly once in all the buyers inspections ever done. I don't think its an issue.
My understanding is that it was isolated to the 996...only negative thing I've heard about the 993 is that the 96 turbo model had a weak driveshaft but it was fixed for 97 & 98...thing is I couldn't find anything to support that.

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Well its true should be out in December, doesn't effect all just certain Vin numbers. That being said they mention transmission could sieze! !! Certainly a BAD situation to be in ....

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My good buddy has ordered a 2016 R1M so he's good and I havent pulled the trigger yet so I'm good lol
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Not great for Yamaha's image. I don't care though, I still have my eye on that R1-S


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Not great for Yamaha's image.
They're taking care of it, Honda straight screwed me.
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What if I told you the NC700X basically has the engine from an Insight that was just chopped in half to make it a parallel twin?
That is Internet fokelore. Owning a NC700X and being on that forum that has been brought up many times and debunked as many times.

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That is Internet fokelore. Owning a NC700X and being on that forum that has been brought up many times and debunked as many times.
So it's just coincidence tten that the bore, stroke, compression ratio, and red line are identical...

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Yes those are the only identicals. I'm not the guru on the subject but bore and stroke are common.

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I'm not putting in the effort to find this out but I'm willing to guess the valves are also the same size,...so if the internals are identical and probably interchangeable meaning the only way they differ is the lengths of the crankshaft and cams to account for 2 less cylinders doesn't yield the conclusion that figuratively is cut in half because it's designing process would literally be centered around just capping it...do you not conclude this because you own one and the plausible source isn't exactly performance oriented?

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