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A pair of stands or a center jack?

I bought a used pair of swing arm and front paddock stands. There are also center jacks or center lifts to use instead. Which method is better? I intend on changing tires (removing both wheels) and general maintenance.
Right now the front forks lift gets in the way of removing the front axle. So imma have to get a proper triple tree lift. Or should I sell both stands and get a center jack? A center jack seems twice as simple as a pair of jacks, and it would lift it up higher off the ground. Is there a reason I shouldn’t go that route?
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My fork lift doesn't get in the way of removing the front wheel, and it's just one of the cheap "trackside" models you can get at cyclegear. It actually works really well.

For the back I have a pitbull spool stand. I love the combo. The bike sits on the rear stand at all times, and the front and rear is actually really stable too.

Then if I need to work on the forks or such, I can lift the front up with my front stand, slide jack stands under my frame sliders, and then drop the front onto the stands. Beats the cost of a triple tree stand.

A motorcycle lift would be nice but you do realize it would lift the bike from the wheels right?

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My fork lift doesn't get in the way of removing the front wheel, and it's just one of the cheap "trackside" models you can get at cyclegear. It actually works really well.

For the back I have a pitbull spool stand. I love the combo. The bike sits on the rear stand at all times, and the front and rear is actually really stable too.

Then if I need to work on the forks or such, I can lift the front up with my front stand, slide jack stands under my frame sliders, and then drop the front onto the stands. Beats the cost of a triple tree stand.

A motorcycle lift would be nice but you do realize it would lift the bike from the wheels right?
Hey that’s..
Anyway, my front stand gets in the way of the axle nut and axle. I guess my question is, why have two stands when one center lift will do the same thing? Is a center jack too unstable for cranking on wheels, or not suited for a sportbike? Has anyone had experience using one?
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Make sure you're lifting the front fork correctly. Unless the front stand you have is an eBay special it should not block access to the axle nut because that would be, well, really dumb engineering.

I thought the same thing when I first got my budget ones and it turned out I was lifting incorrectly.

Center lift has some downsides:

More expensive
Takes up more room in often cramped garages
Not as fast for routine chain lubing etc.
Often bike specific so not as versatile if you have multiple bikes
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The stand should clear the axle. That's what it's designed for. Make sure one pad is UNDER the fork and the other pad is BEHIND the fork. Don't try to straddle them.
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The stand should clear the axle. That's what it's designed for. Make sure one pad is UNDER the fork and the other pad is BEHIND the fork. Don't try to straddle them.
So that’s what mine look like, except on the other end of the axle where the nut is, there isn’t enough clearance to get the socket around the nut. I think I need two beers and some warm weather to sort this all out lol
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Not sure why you don't have enough clearance. There are some sockets that have thinner walls than others. You may want to try a different socket. This is the only picture I have showing the stand and the nut, not sure if the photo quality will be retained enough for you to zoom in on it, but there is ample clearance. I've since added axle sliders, so I can't take another photo for you. Good luck!
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If you are still looking for options, you can use a come-along attached to your ceiling and connect to your triple tree via handlebar tie down straps.

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As I have posted in another thread, the front stand should be positioned aft of the axle when removing the front wheel. Simply position the padded studs on the caliper mounting boss.
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Break the axle bolt free and remove it while the bike isn't on the stand...then just put your bike onto the stand to remove the axle
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Couldn't edit my last post to add more... but I would also suggest swapping that stand for a triple tree stand so that you can remove the forks for servicing if the need arises, just my 2cents
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Also if you have frame sliders it's very easy and very stable to lift from them using jack stands, in conjunction with a rear stand.

Makes for easy tire and fork/triple tree servicing

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This works perfectly, very secure and no interference with regards to front wheel removal.

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Also if you have frame sliders it's very easy and very stable to lift from them using jack stands, in conjunction with a rear stand.



Makes for easy tire and fork/triple tree servicing
Quite true, I have done the same, rear stand first, then front stand, then carefully position a pair of SUV jackstands under the sliders, then carefully remove the front stand, gently lowering onto the jackstands. A tad sketchy but it works.

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