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Arrow Kickboxing video, kick him in nuts twice..

@ 6:41 and @ 7:45. They were unintentional, promise. This was back when I used to train hard. I don't really train anymore. I'm sure there are plenty of martial arts enthusiasts on this forum. This is a "smoker fight." It is regulated but not sanctioned and used strictly for training purposes.

There's some good slugging at around the 8:22 mark and I catch him with pretty good kicks at around the 8:27 mark. Go ahead and critique my stand up fellow kickboxers/mma guys/boxers.

I originally started training because of bullies throughout elementary, jr high and high school.

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not really so beasty anymore haha

That girl's name is Audrey. And she was cute and we hung out and stuff, then I found out she was just a girl in desperate need for attention. her bf lived far away and she invited me over to her place to watch a movie and whatever. i find out she's texting her bf while im over there so i'm like, "not my style. im outta here.... SO LONG GAY BOYZZ!!"

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That's impressive, I would not want to go up against someone like you.

I like your style, lots of counter-attacking - almost every time he over-committed or got lazy with his guard you hit him - I think you got a couple of really good shots in at 4:23 and 4:28. You didn't waste any punches or kicks either and maintained really good protection of your head/ribs. The only thing he was really getting in was mid-height roundhouse kicks, which didn't look to be doing much, but I bet your arms stung a bit after that. Thanks for sharing the vid.

I've studied karate and got to a decent level; it's not the same as MMA obviously, but the counter speed is critical.

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That's impressive, I would not want to go up against someone like you.

I like your style, lots of counter-attacking - almost every time he over-committed or got lazy with his guard you hit him - I think you got a couple of really good shots in at 4:23 and 4:28. You didn't waste any punches or kicks either and maintained really good protection of your head/ribs. The only thing he was really getting in was mid-height roundhouse kicks, which didn't look to be doing much, but I bet your arms stung a bit after that. Thanks for sharing the vid.

I've studied karate and got to a decent level; it's not the same as MMA obviously, but the counter speed is critical.
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I was actually just really tentative and nervous so I guess it worked out as far as counter attacking goes. I had bad habits of dropping my hands when I punch and yes, he did tag me with a few body kicks. They hurt. I didn't do a good job of negating them. He was longer than me so I was in his range but he wasn't in mine. I shoulda stepped in whenever he threw those kicks to counter. I just kept letting him walk in on me.

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My coach was just reffing the fight..

The jumping was something I tried to adopt from Dominick Cruz. Guess I failed lol. I got happy feet. But I feel like I'm less predictable that way... Then again this was coming up on 2 years ago now lol.

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i got the honors of getting kicked in the nuts by a black belt long ago, fun 30 min for me, NOT so much



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Good job JT, but always keep your hands up, especially in the begining

i got the honors of getting kicked in the nuts by a black belt long ago, fun 30 min for me, NOT so much
this was back when I acted like a douche. I was so cocky. I put my hands down and he swung and luckily i dodged it... or else I may have been on the ground experiencing brain convulsions for the next minute..

kicked in nuts is not fun. i cried. and a girl was the one who kicked me in the nuts... couldn't imagine a black belt.

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I learned. I used to be such a douche! i'm more chill now. I try to be a lot more humble. You learn things and start to see things from a different perspective ya know?


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I learned. I used to be such a douche! i'm more chill now. I try to be a lot more humble. You learn things and start to see things from a different perspective ya know?


I do not! That would hurt! do you?
Nope, watched documentary on it, as well as on a bunch of other countries and styles.... Liked the sacrificing the chicken ritual

When I was much younger I did a little of judo, then some TKD for a few years when I was a teen... Wanted to start back up couple years ago, looked into grappling but decided not to feel too broken and old for all that sh!t.



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Nope, watched documentary on it, as well as on a bunch of other countries and styles.... Liked the sacrificing the chicken ritual

When I was much younger I did a little of judo, then some TKD for a few years when I was a teen... Wanted to start back up couple years ago, looked into grappling but decided not to feel too broken and old for all that sh!t.
You're never too old Kali! never too old for anything!

Bjj is hella good stuff.. just watch those ears...

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that's awesome, I trained a little, job got in the way, and now I'm hoping to get the motivation back. I miss it. you have some good hits in that vid

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Johnny!!!! My man!!! haha good sh!t bro. I trained muay thai and jiu jitsu for about 6 years so nice to see some guys on here do as well. You look good bro only thing I can see is you drop your left hand alot when you get hit. You block the strike but right after the left hand drops. I used to do the same with my left hand... my trainer taped my left hand to my head till I got it right haha... good job bro!
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First off, glad you won. That was great to watch, and I have the utmost respect for you having the cajones, to post it and welcome criticism. You have a lot of talent. Here is my two cents. Take it or leave it. Your right hand drops with every move you make. Hands up. You kick, right drops. You swing with the left hand, right hand drops. Protect the face/head at all times. Controlled jabs are critical. You can regulate the tempo of the fight, as well as distance, with your jab. Lastly, aggression and tempo. The first 7 minutes, it seemed as though your opponent set the tempo. I understand it was edited, so I am sure we missed a lot of what really happened. But never, if possible let your opponent set the pace. Like I said, take it or leave it. I've been teaching TKD (southern style), Judo, and American Boxing since 1998. I am not the greatest and definitely too old to get back in the ring, but, I still see potential when I look at it. If you are not still training, you need to start back up. You have a bright future... and yes, I love me some Asian girls too! Hawaii is packed full of them!
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Johnny!!!! My man!!! haha good sh!t bro. I trained muay thai and jiu jitsu for about 6 years so nice to see some guys on here do as well. You look good bro only thing I can see is you drop your left hand alot when you get hit. You block the strike but right after the left hand drops. I used to do the same with my left hand... my trainer taped my left hand to my head till I got it right haha... good job bro!
awwww fawk skoobz you never told me you trained!? That's fawkin awesome!

that was/is a real bad habit of mine. If that guy was a pro he probably woulda countered and dropped me easy baha! my trainers didn't do as good enough of job helping me with that... but I should know better.

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First off, glad you won. That was great to watch, and I have the utmost respect for you having the cajones, to post it and welcome criticism. You have a lot of talent. Here is my two cents. Take it or leave it. Your right hand drops with every move you make. Hands up. You kick, right drops. You swing with the left hand, right hand drops. Protect the face/head at all times. Controlled jabs are critical. You can regulate the tempo of the fight, as well as distance, with your jab. Lastly, aggression and tempo. The first 7 minutes, it seemed as though your opponent set the tempo. I understand it was edited, so I am sure we missed a lot of what really happened. But never, if possible let your opponent set the pace. Like I said, take it or leave it. I've been teaching TKD (southern style), Judo, and American Boxing since 1998. I am not the greatest and definitely too old to get back in the ring, but, I still see potential when I look at it. If you are not still training, you need to start back up. You have a bright future... and yes, I love me some Asian girls too! Hawaii is packed full of them!
I'm used to criticism so it's fine. Dropping my hands sounds like one of my more obvious flaws. I barely performed any jabs either. I could make excuses all day of why my hands dropped or didn't jab enough saying I was nervous, tentative etc etc.... but the way I see it is if I had trained more properly those are things that would be automatic even if I was nervous.

He did set the tempo, and I let him set the tempo. Why? Because I was scared. Now that's an excuse.. I should've pushed more. You can see I came out with a few flurries and some of them were successful, so I shoulda tried some more.

Thanks for the critique. The last time I hit pads are likely a year ago. But right now, I'm not sure if I'm going to be headed back to that lifestyle..

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Hey, good smoker. Fun to watch, but to add:

-Your best counter came at 5:13, you slipped and fired the straight right off your shoulder and hit the button. Very clean. Not the hardest shot you delivered, but after that you started to key off of his low left.

-The fact you didn't toss one's and two's...instead went ahead and used progressive combo's shows some maturity and the way you approach your training. Of all the aspects to the game, after the fundamental movements are learned, teaching a fighter to think ahead and complete 4-5 shot combos is surprisingly difficult to achieve consistently...you did it.

-Your kicks in this bout were not what I'd expect considering your attire. You gotta set those kicks and get that foot to 11'o'clock. You could have diversified his bonds several times when instead you slapped with your leg. It's not your timing, it is just your footwork that hurt you there. Your best kick came @ 8:29.

-On the technical side, his lead leg was open ALL DAY. Gotta make a guy pay who wants to throw jabs all the time.

None of the observations I have made are intended as a slight. I've been there, and it's easy to sit back and pick a guy apart from watching a video. You have some talent in your hands. I just hope you have the right trainer that is willing to make you the best you....instead of some guy that will only spend 1/4 of the time to make you grow.

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Hey, good smoker. Fun to watch, but to add:

-Your best counter came at 5:13, you slipped and fired the straight right off your shoulder and hit the button. Very clean. Not the hardest shot you delivered, but after that you started to key off of his low left.

-The fact you didn't toss one's and two's...instead went ahead and used progressive combo's shows some maturity and the way you approach your training. Of all the aspects to the game, after the fundamental movements are learned, teaching a fighter to think ahead and complete 4-5 shot combos is surprisingly difficult to achieve consistently...you did it.

-Your kicks in this bout were not what I'd expect considering your attire. You gotta set those kicks and get that foot to 11'o'clock. You could have diversified his bonds several times when instead you slapped with your leg. It's not your timing, it is just your footwork that hurt you there. Your best kick came @ 8:29.

-On the technical side, his lead leg was open ALL DAY. Gotta make a guy pay who wants to throw jabs all the time.

None of the observations I have made are intended as a slight. I've been there, and it's easy to sit back and pick a guy apart from watching a video. You have some talent in your hands. I just hope you have the right trainer that is willing to make you the best you....instead of some guy that will only spend 1/4 of the time to make you grow.

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I'm about 160 soaking wet!! Baha

Thanks for the insight seagreen. I didn't kick much at all. I could've incorporated them much better but I didn't.

My best kick was at 8:29, you're right. And to be honest with you, that's what all of my kicks should've looked like. I didn't execute properly with previous kicks. I didn't follow through and throw them with intention like that one.

His leg was open all day. I didn't notice that. If only I could rip them like Aldo...

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Heh, he is playin' around John. (He's my best friend)

I fought at welter and middleweight, today after living in a gym the last couple years I'm 180lbs, and would end up fighting middle to super middleweight after dehydrating to make weight.

I still train, and have trained a few fighters over the years, but it's more about staying fit than swapping blows today versus 10 years ago. This whole getting old thing is lame.


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I was actually just really tentative and nervous so I guess it worked out as far as counter attacking goes. I had bad habits of dropping my hands when I punch and yes, he did tag me with a few body kicks. They hurt. I didn't do a good job of negating them. He was longer than me so I was in his range but he wasn't in mine. I shoulda stepped in whenever he threw those kicks to counter. I just kept letting him walk in on me.
I thought you protected yourself well except for after strikes, as biglen noted. There was one moment at 2:52 that was a little open, but he missed.

I don't know how realistic it is for you or what the rules are, but some low kicks might've worn him out. He put is left leg way forward when he was jabbing; I thought you might've been able to work on it, or hit it regularly to take away his strength and balance - I don't remember the whole fight, but he seemed to depend on his right leg for the roundhouse kicks. I think the counters are effective, especially when the other guy is taller, which makes it very hard to get inside without putting yourself at risk.

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