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ok so i was thinking of buying some watsen flush mounts for my bike, then i thought, i dont want to be spending 120 bux just for lights! so i went down to my local dealer bought some 20 dollar flushmounts off the rack...BIG MISTAKE, after all the trouble it took to remove the faring and install them....now that im trying them out....they dont blink! they just give a flickering light!maybe their blinking really fast? anywayz did i mess up on the install or did i just buy cheap product that dont work

i just took aa look and something did get messsed up because by tail light is flickering instead of blinking too!

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You did buy a cheap product, shame on you! But really, you just need to buy resistors because now that you have led's instead of bulbs, you have inadvertently messed with the resistance needed for the relay to function properly. Do a search and you will find all the info and more on this.
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i did a seach and it said something about leaving certain wires disconnected? but these flushmounts were just plug and play so i didnt splice anything......soooo yeah
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But really, you just need to buy resistors because now that you have led's instead of bulbs, you have inadvertently messed with the resistance needed for the relay to function properly. Do a search and you will find all the info and more on this.
Keyword search "RESISTORS":
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.p...ight=resistors
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bump to nixinus sounds like a resistor problem to me to

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honestly....didnt understand a word of it and have no idea what a resistor is....and does this happen for every led flushmounts? or am i just lucky?
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honestly....didnt understand a word of it and have no idea what a resistor is....and does this happen for every led flushmounts? or am i just lucky?
Flushmounts use leds instead of bulbs. The leds use less resistance than bulbs and consequently since the relays (things that determine the pulse or flash of the signal) work on a preset resistance your changing of the signals messed with the flash rate. You can change the relay out to function on the lower resistance or you can install resistors to increase the resistance (the resistance that was taken away by leds instead of bulbs). All led flushmounts will do this, nothing should be special about yours. As the previously supplied thread noted, you can pick these up at radio shack for a couple bucks. DO NOT INSTALL THEM ON PLASTIC AS THEY WILL MELT THROUGH IT!

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****...they should say on the box before u buy they leds that ur gonna need to buy some other crap with it......anywayz ok....i need resistors.....i have a 06 cbr, should i just buy the same ones you mentioned? also how do you install them because that drawing made no sense to me....i feel like a 4 year old:)

also my back lights doing the samething too, will that resistor fix them too?
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oh and is it best to go with the resistor or these Electronic Flasher Relay things
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****...they should say on the box before u buy they leds that ur gonna need to buy some other crap with it......anywayz ok....i need resistors.....i have a 06 cbr, should i just buy the same ones you mentioned? also how do you install them because that drawing made no sense to me....i feel like a 4 year old:)

also my back lights doing the samething too, will that resistor fix them too?
The front and rear lights both work on the same "circuit" so yes, fixing one end will fix the other. There are numerous ways with which you can install these. I recommend just buying them from CA website and using thier directions to install it. Where ever you decide to mount them (front or back) the only direction I can give you now as I am tired is to mount them on Cable Tie Mounts to keep them away from plastic that you might melt. I personally have mine in the tail.

Order the resistors and read up on the install until they get here.
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alright thanx, yippe a simple mod turns into electrical hell
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last thing......resistor, electrical tape, that mount thing with the zip tie....got it....what is that package of blue....."thingiez"
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This is what is used:


It is called a 'snap in connector' Its purpose is to connect two wires together or add one wire in line with another. You will need this because the resistor gets connected to the already existing signal wires (illustrated in the diagram from the thread I posted earlier).
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electrical hell? What's so hard about stripping some wire and braiding some wire like a stereo speaker?

personally, this is what i would do.

if i have LEDs up front, you need a 20W resister for each side. stock wattage is 23W per lamp and that's the number you have to get back. LEDs are around 3 Watts a peice. total system wattage is 46W. the resister doesn't have to be located on the front or back, or even near the signal itself.

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Putting the resistors in from the rear end of the bike is the easiest in my opinion. Take the rear faring off connect the wires and you're good to go. Some recommend wrapping the resistors in electric tape, but it's your personal preference. After you're done tuck the wires and everything up inside the faring -right under the passenger seat for a nice clean look.

I still have a problem with my flushmounts though and haven't been able to figure it out. Obviously has something to do with a connection to the resistor or ground wire. When I first turn the bike on if I hit the left signal its steady (flashing 100mph) but if I hit the right first then the left it works perfect, and will continue to work perfect until I turn the bike back off. Any other ideas?
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um i think im gonna do it thru the front end, i dont know if im doing things the hard way or not but is there an easier way to get to the flushmounts without taking off the entire front end?
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um i think im gonna do it thru the front end, i dont know if im doing things the hard way or not but is there an easier way to get to the flushmounts without taking off the entire front end?
nope. ya gotta do it.

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not hard just time consuming
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10 minutes?

well whatever. good luck in your endeavor. your strife will not go to waste!
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before i get started, this is the right resistor and connectors right?

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Your golden. Now go take care of bidness!
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does anyone acutally have problems with their resisters getting too hot? i just mounted them near the rear on the side, figured if i use a blinker its only for a few seconds so they shouldnt heat up too fast...
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^^^some people forget they have their blinkers on. If you mount them with cable tie mounts you at least keep a little distance between the bikes plastic.
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DONE!.....okay first got worried, only did one side, the way nixinus had drawn it out....didnt work....so then i tried knightsluggers way on one side....still didnt work...thats when i got worried....then i did one side the nixinus way and the other the knightslugger way and lucky me WORKZ! probably didnt work when i did just one side because needed both ends to work....so now i have one of each...anywayz much mahaloz to you two!
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Congrats! But I think the nixinus way and the knightslugger way are essentially the same thing. Any case, cool to have a way named after you, huh knight?
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p.s loaded the thing with electrical tape, also i couldent find any of those zip tie mounted base things but i found something like it but its just the base part no zip tie loop and i just taped the resistor to it, hope its enough to keep my plastics safe
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Congrats! But I think the nixinus way and the knightslugger way are essentially the same thing. Any case, cool to have a way named after you, huh knight?
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p.s loaded the thing with electrical tape, also i couldent find any of those zip tie mounted base things but i found something like it but its just the base part no zip tie loop and i just taped the resistor to it, hope its enough to keep my plastics safe
20 watt resister isn't going to get hot enough to melt plastic.
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