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ok start i thought my battery was bad... i got it checked everything seems to be working with that .... howevery still wont start up .... now ive tryed to see if the engine use flooded and i have to unflood the engine every time i try to start it that the only way it starts up ... can someone help ?
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any recent work or crashes you wish to disclose?
 
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no work .... how ever i did have to lay it down do to some dude didnt yelling the right away but that was back in Jan. and no problmes since that I did change the spark plugs about 2-3 months ago.

about 1 montha ago i was rideing and stopped at the store got back on it and it didnt start waited about 30 mins. and it started up but that was the only time now its doing it ever time

it cranks over but dont start up ....unless i deflood it first
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nothing but a power commander ..... that was put on almost 2 years ago.... i have not done anything to lead up to the problme its a everyday rider.
i get on it and ride it from work and home and some weekends i ride in the cali twisting road in the Mts
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just tryed to start it and now after deflooding it it still wont atart and the battery drains low
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well it's sounding more and more like a PCIII issue. do you have the original map saved? zero the map after you save it, inspect your plugs, recharge your battery, and give it another go.
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ive got the zero map and ill try it .... but ? say that works after that can i change the map? are will i have the same problem ?
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can't say for sure, but it this fixes it, and if you go back it creates problems, then we found the problem.
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thanks ill find out in the morning
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ok so heres the deal i zero maped the power commander verything seem to work i drove the bike about 6miles and off the bike off tryed to start it up again and it wouldnt start so does this mean that the battery is bad .... not keeping a charge?
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with more detail on what you mean by "it wouldn't start" i could tell you.

so when you turn the bike on, what happens?
When you flip the run switch to ON, what happens?
when you hit the starter button, what happens?
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My cam position sensor was bad on my bike when i had this problem. I laid it down on the left side.... Also there should be a code flash on your display the service manual should be on here somewhere. Just match the number of flashes with the manual. Remember one long flash equals 10 short flashes.
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so when you turn the bike on, what happens? with about i 5 min charnge it starts right up
When you flip the run switch to ON, what happens? the red light for oil comes on with the sound of ... i dont know charge like by the battery area it sounds like its in that area
when you hit the starter button, what happens? with on 5 min battery change it turns over but doesnt fire up -the battery dies down
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5 minutes! What amperage are you using to charge the battery?!

please do this for me, do not vary this at all.

Take the battery out of the bike. Set the charger to 2A or lower, hook the battery up, and let the battery charge over night. in the morning, take the battery to an auto parts store to get load tested. if this cannot be done, find a multi-meter, install the battery, switch your multimeter to VDC, attach the leads from the multimeter to the battery's terminals, note the battery's voltage, turn the bike on, hold the throttle wide open, as far as it'll go, start cranking. monitor the voltage of the battery while cranking for 10 seconds. if the voltage drops below 9 volts (there are there abouts) you have a bad battery and it must be replaced.

Release the throttle, and start the bike. take note of the battery's voltage. is it higher than before you started this testing regimen? it should be in the 13.x VDC range. now turn on your high beam and rev the motor to 5000 rpm and take note of the voltage. it should increase, but it should not be above 15.5VDC at any time.

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i just got i new battery and it still doing the same thing the new battery is fully chargeg
i'm using a battery tender plus.
the voltage us 13.873

and the charging system for the battery tender plus is 12v - 1.25

so whats my next step
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did you do all of the above?
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i did all the above and still haveing trouble

this morning it fired right up i got to work (26miles) cut the bike off. about 2 mins later i tryed to turn bike on again and same problem yet again i got it started by unflooding and then trying to start the bike ... again bike started up
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It's gotta be a fueling problem then because your battery and charging system sounds strong. check your plugs.

when it sputters and dies, do you notice that if you hold the clutch in do the lights on the dash go out?
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i checked the sparkplugs they are dry ckecked gaping sparkplugs look good... once the bike is started the bike doesnt sputters out and the light on the dash stoped going out after i put the new battery in
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check the other ends of your battery cables for good, clean, tight, connections. esp. the starter relay. i've not seen one CBR that has clean contacts in there.
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ok so i checked all that .... now i just discoved that my bike starts up ever time .... if i turn the key on turn off the kill switch and turn it back on ... and if i turn the bike off with the switch the turn it back on it starts but if i off the bike off with the switch or by key ... i have to turn kill switch off then back on

does this mean that my problme is the kill switch and that i have to buy a new on ? and if so that should fix my problme ?
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that sounds like a tripped BAS reset procedure...
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and how do i do that
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you already are. it was a hint to check your BAS for problems.
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whats the next step? steps?
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Done checking the BAS already?
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how do you check it and what do i look for
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post #30 of 53 (permalink) Old 09-22-2008, 09:23 PM
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well how long does the bike run once you get it started?
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