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Wont shut off!!

I went to shut the bike off last night after pulling it out of the garage, turned the key to "off" and everything stayed on, lights, engine still running, gauges, all. Turned it to lock, pulled the key out, and no difference. I also tried the engine kill switch and same result.

I switched the key on and off a few times and it still stayed on. About the third time I tried the engine kill switch, it shut the engine off, but all the lights stayed on. After this, I shut the key off, and everything shut off.

Turned key on again, started it, and same thing happened. Engine stayed running with all the lights on with the ignition in lock, the key pulled out, and the kill switch in the off position!

Any idea what might be going on? Almost seems like a relay is bad or the ignition switch is on the way out. Thanks all.
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dont think its the ignition switch.. the kill switch bypass all that but never knoe

might be a cross wire somewhere? had this happen to this car i worked on.. the guy had an amp put in.. but some how wired a signal wire from the amp to an ignition wire.. WTF? and it would keep the car on with the key out and everything..
i would look at the ignition wire/ ignition area to be at fault
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THat is F'ed up, I had a dream last night about that happening to my bike,,, but when i got to work this morning it shut off fine,

Can't help you there though
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well that's queer. was it involved an any accidents lately?
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sounds like a job for the Ghostbusters.... or a qualified electronic tech.

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I believe its the "you didn't ride me long enough" switch. It wants to be ridden more.

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do you have an electrical diagram? This would help a lot. You could find out what conditions turn off the motor and the headlights. I would assume the engine kill switch would over ride the key but you need the electrical diagram to see exactly, They might be in series and one might affect the other.

I don't have an 06 manual but it would be helpful.

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if you have the 03 manual, it's no different.
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I believe its the "you didn't ride me long enough" switch. It wants to be ridden more.
i think youre right!
listen to your bike dude, it could become serious!
take that thing back out before it cuts you off completely.
had a girl do that to me once, tried to put her away like you did and she left me for good :sad11:


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I believe its the "you didn't ride me long enough" switch. It wants to be ridden more.
Spot on. Spose 6,000 miles since may wasnt enough. Damn antsy bike. LOL.
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do you have an electrical diagram? This would help a lot. You could find out what conditions turn off the motor and the headlights. I would assume the engine kill switch would over ride the key but you need the electrical diagram to see exactly, They might be in series and one might affect the other.

I don't have an 06 manual but it would be helpful.

Ive got a service manual. I'll start tearing into it this weekend to see what I can find. I was an auto tech for 12 years, so hopefully the bike wont be much different. Ill have to see how its wired and go from there.

I decided to ride it to work today, was fine until I got home, didnt want to shut off again. Maybe its tired of my garage?
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Ive got a service manual. I'll start tearing into it this weekend to see what I can find. I was an auto tech for 12 years, so hopefully the bike wont be much different. Ill have to see how its wired and go from there.

I decided to ride it to work today, was fine until I got home, didnt want to shut off again. Maybe its tired of my garage?
it's ridiculously simplistic... electrically.
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I believe its the "you didn't ride me long enough" switch. It wants to be ridden more.

LMAO ........
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Sounds like something isn't touching in the bottom of your ignition. If you can remove it flip it over and you can watch it work with a meter. T




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ok Step 1 visit the 600rr.net parts forums and obtain a complete wiring harness....why? cause for that to happen something is way beyond seriously fubar lol - kill switch should have removed the positive side of the system from ground as far as the ingition is concerned
On the totally serious side you may have more than one problem - check the ingition switch and then check the relays etc, something has to be feeding the igntion juice...
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I believe its the "you didn't ride me long enough" switch. It wants to be ridden more.

Ha Ha thank god my bike hasnt done this to me yet
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ok Step 1 visit the 600rr.net parts forums and obtain a complete wiring harness....why? cause for that to happen something is way beyond seriously fubar lol - kill switch should have removed the positive side of the system from ground as far as the ingition is concerned
On the totally serious side you may have more than one problem - check the ingition switch and then check the relays etc, something has to be feeding the igntion juice...
if step 1 fails.. goto step 2 and drink :all_cohol
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your bike is haunted. is it still running as i type right now? lol

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LOL I was messing with it again yesterday and it took me 10 attempts before it shut off. Ive still been riding it around. Spose if it doesnt shut off I'll just keep on riding.

The first day off I get im going to tear into it -- hopefully thats this weekend sometime.

I did have some trouble with the key turning in the ignition earlier this year, sprayed some lube in there and it cured that -- wonder if any of it got into the switch and caused a short??
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hmm that is weird. Definitely keeps us posted on this...
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This morning I tore into it.

Found nothing obvious, everything checked out with the test light, so I went thru and tightened up all the connections at the battery and starter relay, checked all the plugs at the ignition, fuse box, and relay block, and all the grounds.

There is a main ground bolt with several wires going to it next to the fuse box. It was loose. Tightened it and it hasnt done it since. If that ground included the ground for the "engine stop relay" than that would explain it. Tried it about 20 times, and it shut off every time.

We'll see what happens from here on out.
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sounds like you fixed it... gj
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Sounds like a cheap fix. Good job

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