Removing PAIR Valve - 600RR.net
Troubleshooting Having trouble with your bike? Common know issues or trobuleshooting questions here.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-22-2008, 04:59 PM Thread Starter
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: CA / GG
Posts: 173
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 7 reviews
Removing PAIR Valve

i know some of you racer / track guys removed pair valve .. my question is .. does removing pair valve throws trouble codes ?

im in middle of replacing throttle body .. i was thinking about removing it while im in there anyway ..

ocxggx6rr is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-22-2008, 05:07 PM
Demented
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
It does not throw any error codes.
post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-22-2008, 05:10 PM Thread Starter
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: CA / GG
Posts: 173
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 7 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demented View Post
It does not throw any error codes.


have i mentioned that ur doing a great JOB ?


Thanks D

ocxggx6rr is offline  
 
post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-22-2008, 05:14 PM
Demented
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I think once before. :)
post #5 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-22-2008, 05:28 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
Ceph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Keokuk, IA
Posts: 13,229
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
to get a proper dyno tune, your going to want to remove it anyway. no error codes.
Ceph is offline  
post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-22-2008, 07:04 PM Thread Starter
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: CA / GG
Posts: 173
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 7 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceph View Post
to get a proper dyno tune, your going to want to remove it anyway. no error codes.
that i didnt know ... i do now !

for now , im only running slip on . if i were to get PC , one less thing to worry about :icon_lol:

ocxggx6rr is offline  
post #7 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-23-2008, 11:57 AM
World Superbike Racer
 
dcope17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 2,120
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
I still have the PAIR valve on my track bike and I need a new tune. What does the valve do? Let the air from the motor breathe into the air filter. I know that's just an emmisions thing, old cars never did that.

I guess if that's what is does, Removing it keeps hot oily air from entering your intake?

Ride hard today, Ride harder tomorrow,!
Walk close to Christ today, Walk closer tomorrow

How to fix headlights... Dreamzboy's excellent write-up
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=138034
dcope17 is offline  
post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-23-2008, 12:29 PM
Moto GP Racer
 
Ceph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Keokuk, IA
Posts: 13,229
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
it pumps fresh air into the exhaust to pass the sniffers, basically.
Ceph is offline  
post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-23-2008, 12:36 PM
AMA Supersport Racer
 
Dr. GoFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,453
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcope17 View Post
I still have the PAIR valve on my track bike and I need a new tune. What does the valve do? Let the air from the motor breathe into the air filter. I know that's just an emmisions thing, old cars never did that.

I guess if that's what is does, Removing it keeps hot oily air from entering your intake?
the PAIR valve pumps air into the exhaust flow to trick the emissions testers into thinking that the stock map is more lean than it actually is. also, it supposedly helps burn unburnt fuels. as you know, you want your headers to remain as hot as possible and some people have claimed that the PAIR causes the headers to cool down too much as the air that's pumped into the header by the PAIR is relatively cool. most have agreed that there is no impact on performance with or without the PAIR. the main reason people remove it is because it saves about a pound of weight and makes tuning easier. it also takes all those tubes and crap out of that already-packed area which eases things like checking valves, etc...

2004 Honda CBR600RR
-Spiegler SS lines f+r
-Woodcraft rearsets
-Woodcraft Clip-Ons
-GPR Steering Damper
-Vesrah RJL brake pads
-Elka 3-Way Shock
-CRG gold levers
-Leo Vince Full Exhaust
-PCIII
-green painted rims
-puig d-bubble screen
-Pro-impact Frame sliders
-EK MVXZ 520 green chain w/ Pit bull sprockets (-1/+1)
- .9 kg/mm constant-rate fork springs +re-valving
-Tanktredz
Dr. GoFast is offline  
post #10 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-23-2008, 02:25 PM
World Superbike Racer
 
dcope17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 2,120
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Thanks Doc. I might as well rip that thing out before my new tune.

Ride hard today, Ride harder tomorrow,!
Walk close to Christ today, Walk closer tomorrow

How to fix headlights... Dreamzboy's excellent write-up
https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=138034
dcope17 is offline  
post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-23-2008, 10:23 PM Thread Starter
Knee Dragger
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: CA / GG
Posts: 173
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 7 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcope17 View Post
Thanks Doc. I might as well rip that thing out before my new tune.

here the link that i've found

CBRWorld.net - How to remove PAIR (Pulsed Secondary Air Injection) valve

ocxggx6rr is offline  
post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-28-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 156
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Thats a good detailed right up. Good find
Foxrider64 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the 600RR.net forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome