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rear seat is locked on :(

alright guys so one day i was trying to get my rear seat to open better by playing with how the locking system works and i closed it and it didnt open back up. So does anyone know a way to take the rear seat off without using the key? the cable is still hooked up at the key feels like it works, it just wont pop it open.. Can anyone help me out? thanks guys

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wha wha????? i dont understand key for a rearset?
unless you mean rear SEAT, if that is what you mean. try pushing down on the seat over the locking mech. while you turn the key. see if itll pop up for you.
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haha im sorry yes i did mean rear seat.. haha i was just looking at ordering rearsets for my bike so they are on my mind. and yeah i did try pushing down on the seat wiggling it everthing. its got to be on bolted some how.
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You said you were playing with how the locking system works... Whatever you did, maybe undo it?

edit: what year bike are you working on?

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it is a 04RR haha i would love to undo it but i cant get it back apart thats the problem. if the seat would come off i would fix it. and i know how to now becuase my cable wasnt all the way on.
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If the key still turns like normal, then the cable is too loose. Check where the cable goes through the tail fairing, there is a plastic fitting that needs to be in place. If it isn't there then...

Pull on the cable (pull out of tail)

Turn key fully to "unlock"

Pull up on seat.

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Oops, did you say that the cable isn't even attached?? If so we need to go another route here...

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haha no it wasnt attacted befor and thats y it wasnt working good so i messed with the latch under the seat then once it got stuck i checked the cable and it wasnt right so i fixed that but still nothing. im telling you guys he latch setup needs to be unbolted or something the cable is fine. im just not sure how to get to those bolts... there much be a way.
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Pry the seat off. That's the only real way.
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i dont think prying is going to anything but trash stuff. theres no way or unbolting the latch?
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You have to have the seat off to unbolt the latch. A lot of tape on the tail and a crowbar is your only option.
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How about calling a lock smith???
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a lock smith? i dont think they know any more about a RR then i do.. and demented you saying if i pry the seat while turning the key it will pop it off without brakeing the latch?
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A lock smith will know more about a lock than you... maybe,, unless you are a lock smith yourself,, you could just pry it off like suggested but you risk damaging the rear fairing wich is about $200,, and you risk damaging the seat which is about $150 i think,, a lock smith for $20-50 might be worth the try,, but it is your bike do what ever you want
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If the key wont get the latch undone, a locksmith wont be able to do anything. About not breaking the latch though, I'm not sure about that. The latch system is pretty simple.

If turning the key does undoes the latch, pry it off with the key turned.
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A lock smith will know more about a lock than you... maybe,, unless you are a lock smith yourself,, you could just pry it off like suggested but you risk damaging the rear fairing wich is about $200,, and you risk damaging the seat which is about $150 i think,, a lock smith for $20-50 might be worth the try,, but it is your bike do what ever you want
Stuff is cheaper then that. You can get a tail and seat for about $100 here, pretty much brand new.
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a lock smith? i dont think they know any more about a RR then i do.. and demented you saying if i pry the seat while turning the key it will pop it off without brakeing the latch?
This is a pretty absurd statement to make. You have f*cked up your lock and you can't get it undone. Locksmith's unlock and fix locks...come to think about it, this statement may just explain all of your troubles...get it?

one more thing...break

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Stuff is cheaper then that. You can get a tail and seat for about $100 here, pretty much brand new.
I just baught a rear fairing for my bike and it cost $213 canadian brand new,,, so if you go by the exchange rate alone that is like $160 US
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alright a lock smith deals with locks not latches on street bikes. if my lock where the key goes in was messed up i wouldnt think calling a lock smith was a bad idea but if i called one now he would come into my house and look at it and be like wtf? i have no idea. please guys dont talk to me like im stupid its not a lock smiths line of work.
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If the lock works, the key turns, and it feels like the latch opens, just pull up on the seat with a lot of force. It was probably just on there wrong.
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alright man ill go find some tape and my bar and give it a try.. thanks for knowing what i was talking about. but check back for an update please!! thanks
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I'd try prying it off with just your hands first. If it doesn't work, a large screwdriver or crowbar is all you really have.
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alright a lock smith deals with locks not latches on street bikes. if my lock where the key goes in was messed up i wouldnt think calling a lock smith was a bad idea but if i called one now he would come into my house and look at it and be like wtf? i have no idea. please guys dont talk to me like im stupid its not a lock smiths line of work.

Well explain yourself better,, read your first post,,, is says you were messing arround with the locking system,,, What suppose to assume from that?? I was trying to make a suggestion
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i realize that man i was just trying to tell you that its not the lock itself that is messed up the latch that holds the seat on is stuck. im sorry for being a **** about it.
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If you pull the rider seat off... can you get to the cables easier? Maybe there is something going on with the cable. I am not at my bike so I can't know for sure. For that fact, without a complete understanding of what you were tweaking with to get to this point, I can't imagine anyone will be able to get a solid recommendation for you.
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yeah i think im going to have to just figure it out on my self worst comes to worst i cut the seat off and get a cowl or new rear seat :)
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yeah the praying trick didnt work there must be bolts that hold the latch onto the seat.
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u can probably get a seat for 20-30 bucks, so i wouldnt worry too much if u have to trash it.
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yeah... i would just cut threw the rear seat. either use a solo cowl or get a new seat. By far the cheapest way around this

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