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Exclamation 06' wont start

Its a daily rider, I fired it up no problem yesterday. Went to turn it on today after doing a little cleaning. Key in, lights on, guages look good, flipped the kill switch, heard the fuel pump priming, went to crank it and my finger slipped off the switch and it kinda did a half turn...so hit it again a second later and i could tell right there it wasnt gonna turn over. thought maybe it was the battery so I charged it but to no avail, still just turns over and over...help

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nobody? come on guys I got a trackday soon...any ideas? :icon_stud

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Whack the throttle wide open while trying to start it? Might change the air-fuel mixture when starting. Or maybe that's only on carbed bikes. As long as you're in neutral, can't hurt to give it a try.

At worst, get someone to help you bump start the thing.
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mine did that 1-2 months ago since it had been sittin there for winter
Day before it started first shot perfectly, 2nd day it wouldnt.
I just cracked the throttle while hittin the starter, took a few tries but it fired on up
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The same thing that Nisgatreaty said to do: Whack the throttle wide open while trying to start it? This same thing happen to me a while back and it worked.
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Ok, well ill try and give that a shot. Though this is my daily rider and it fired up no problem twice the night before....

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can we get some more info on how it sounds when you try to crank it. could be bad battery or flooded a number of things
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can we get some more info on how it sounds when you try to crank it. could be bad battery or flooded a number of things
Ok well its been 2 days and ive been trying to start it a couple times a day, to the point where the battery starts to die down. then i gotta throw the battery tender on to recharge then give it another try. 2 days of this so somethings obviously up. as far as what it sounds like when i crank it...just turns and turns but doesnt sound like it catching...maybe need new plugs? new fuses? thing is it was just fine 2 nights before hand so I cant really think what it would be...

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well, you can pull a plug out and check to see if you're getting spark.

First... do you smell fuel when you try to start it?

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well, you can pull a plug out and check to see if you're getting spark.

First... do you smell fuel when you try to start it?
yeah after cranking it for a few seconds...def smell gas

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alot of gas? are you still cracking the throttle open? you might just be flooding it more... this happened to me too a while back... there is a bank angle sensor up front attached to the meter stay... mine came loose and if isnt upright the bike wont start... you can try checking that... but as far as cracking the throttle open, it should enrich itself withou you opening the throttle... try just cranking it for a little without throttle
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sorry i forgot to describe the sensor haha... its a little flat black box smaller than your fist with a glossy top... it say honda on it and has an arrow on it that says UP... you have to take your front cowl off toe get to it... it should be mounted between the rwo headlights
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Ill try the bas sensor...but my bike hasnt been down or even near on its side. and it started fine 2 days ago.....im sure its something pretty simple tho...i hate taking my fenders on and off...oh well. its raining anyways...:all_cohol

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do you have a fi light?
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yeah i have the FI light, it comes on...

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ok well take your right fairing off, and you will see two plugs next to wht frame... a green one and a black one... unplugh the green one and that puts your bike in a sort of diagnostic mode... turn on the key in neutral, an the fi light will start to flash... first it will flash slowly, count those flashes, and then it will flash quickly, count those and post the numbers... those numbers are your bike telling you whats wrong.
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****left fairing****
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K, i got a buddy coming over in an hour to help out...thanks amann014, ill post up after doing what you suggested

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no problem... let us know what happens or what the code is... im curious....good luck hope you get riding soon...
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ahhhhhh, man...well here it is...we tried several things.
1. jump starting...no go
2. recharging the battery...no go (even swapped for a new battery...no go.)
3. Made sure the fuel pump was priming...ie, hearing it.
4. Made sure my power commander was working correctly...visually.

Didnt wanna take the fenders off yet...but next we gotta check the...
1. BAS sensor (bank angle sensor between headlights)
2. ECU -(it maybe fried, having a friend with same bike bring his over to swap ECU's)
3. Plugs (may not be getting spark? get new ones?)
4. .....dont know what to do next.....any suggestions?

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im telling you avoid all that hassle and take off 4 ir so bolts and unplug that green plug... you bike will tell you what is wrong... post the flashes and ill look the code up for you....
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ok, where is that green plug on the 06?

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should be around the same spot... left side of the bike attached to the frame
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mind you my bike is an 07... so its not gonna be the exact same
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im lookin right now...

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if they arent colored its the one that is connected to the kickstand... the wire that plugs into it runs all the way to the kickstand for the safety switch
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I think I found it...its on the left side right up under the frame showing above the fender.

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Its got 3 wires coming out of the plug...BLACK, GREY and LIGHT BLUE...

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if thta the one that runs to the kickstand, unplug it, turn the key on and watch the FI light...it should flash slow and then fast... count them seperately and post the numbers
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So i just unplug that and then turn the bike on and watch for the flashes on the FI light? (fyi i have illumiglo guages that go over the original and it might cover the light thats flashing<<<thats the FI light yes?)

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